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Old 07-13-2013, 05:20:14 PM
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Hi All,
This engine was at the Junction Rally (Wentworth, NSW) today and the owner would like to have it identified.

Apart from a "S" cast into the bottom of the engine, there are no numbers or markings anywhere on the engine to help with its true identity.
So far he has been told it is a De Dion, a Deutscher, an Illman and a Lewis.
Can anyone please correctly identify this engine.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes, jayvee
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:55:09 PM
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That 'S' symbol on the crankcase is very much like the French Sarolea symbol. They made motorcycles and proprietary engines for other motorcycles.
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Old 07-13-2013, 09:02:20 PM
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A photo always helps. This engine is obviously out of a car, I can't say I've seen a Sarolea car engine, but it's possible they made them.
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I've since found out that Sarolea was actually a Belgian company (I thought they were French, for some reason). I found this photo of a 1905 v-twin, which matches the 'S' on the crankcase pretty well. A lot of car makers around this time were making car engines well as motorcycle engines; Peugeot, FN, Minerva, Aster. In the UK, Riley, Humber, Singer, Rover, etc. So, I still think it's a possibility.
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Hi All,
This engine was purchased by a collector in Queensland at the recent National Rally.
Investigations has led to the engine being identified as a Sarolea from Belgium. Dated around 1907.
Puzzle solved.

Thought I'd let you know.

jayvee
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Rudy searched high and low for an answer on this one and even the Dutch people had to search for an answer as it was a rare one for being in their country never mind over here.
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