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1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.


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Default 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

Hello all, I am a firefighter in St Augustine, Fl. and have recently decided to take on the task of restoring our original 28 ALF. Would love to hear any thoughts, ideas or past experiences any of you have had with this motor and chassis. As far as i can tell it has a 6 cylinder T-head that i believe is an ALF motor.
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Default Re: 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

Lets hope Andrew Mackey will chime in. He's versed on those.
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Welcome to STAK......

I moved your question to the Antique Autos and Trucks forum where I'm sure it will be seen.

https://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57
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Default Re: 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

Unfortunately, I do not have much experience with the 6 cylinder engines. my expertise is more the V-12 and 700 series trucks. I understand that the Texas Fire Museum is now back in operation, perhaps they might be able to help out once they get back on line. If you have general questions, I might be able to help. Please post questions!
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Default Re: 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

Thanks Andrew,

I have so many questions already and I haven't even turned the first bolt. I guess the first thing is nomenclature. Is there something with these T-head motors that I should be referencing when searching for parts? ie.. cylinder size, year or manufacturer? Ive just been calling a '28 ALF 6 cylinder T-head. Should i be narrowing it down somehow?
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Default Re: 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

I was surprised to find alfowners.com offline---hit said to click to find out why, but all I got was a black screen...I'm assuming you're trying to get in touch with the Club and/or the other Fire Eqpmt Group (spaamfaa or something similar),...
As to the engine, the answer's almost certainly yes...
While my old catalogs are weak on Fire Apparatus, and I find no 145 listed under what ALF I do have, the catalogs appear to show FIVE "own" engines used in 1928...bores of 33/4, 41/4, 43/4, 51/2 and 61/4...
They also list several Buda 6s and a Buick Master 6 used in 1928...
I said 'appear' as these old catalogs have their share of errors, omissions and misprints, nor do they specify valve types...
Per Mroz's Ency of US Trucks, ALF built Commercial trucks in those years as well as Fire Apparatus; some engines may've been for the Commercial side...
I have too few ALF listings to see if any internal changes made in any of the engines, but it wouldn't hurt to make a note of the engine ser #...l
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Default Re: 1928 American Lafrance Type 145 PWT.

The fire department in Waxahachie, Texas restored their early fire engine and might be able to help you. They use it in parades. Do a google search for Waxahachie's official site and you can find the fire department.

Their administrative number is 469-309-4200. Good luck
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