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Time for an update. Had a plumber install a connection point at the natural gas meter with a shut off valve and my existing quick disconnect previously installed at former house. Cement pad is about 5 feet or so from meter and waiting for the JB and enclosure.

I am estimating the JB ( magniciter) and housing weighs in around 500 lbs?? Wondering if 4 guys can pick it up to move from garage to new location 100 feet away. I do not have a trailer or cart that would not damage the soft grass and raised flower bed in the way. My cherry picker would not roll across the area well either

Would 4 average guys be able to put two lifting pipes under the housing and carry it to it's new pad? Ed Sparks and I used to joke that we wanted it portable "just in case"!
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The JB weighs about 475lbs Im not sure what the housing weighs. It would be pretty awkward to carry 100' 2 guys walking backward. I think if you got a couple straps cradled under both the motor and gen end with a pole running through loops on each side. You wouldn't have to bend down and pick it up. Im afraid carrying it putting it down over and over would be hard on peoples back. Using straps at a comfortable height you could walk it 8 to 10' and rest it on a piece of 4x4 plywood so it wouldnt damage the grass. Grass will grow back. Backs not so well.
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If the housing has bottom rails, I would roll the set on a few lengths of 2" dia. iron pipe.
Use 2 sheets of plywood to protect the lawn, and leapfrog them and the pipe as you move the set to it's final spot.
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Need a FORK lift or a medium to large tractor with a STRONG front bucket to load the beast.
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When you over load guys there's too much risk dropping it. Better to give a guy with a front loader who plows snow $25 to move it for you. Plywood on the lawn to protect it if you care about the grass., the guy may even have the plywood .

For 240 pound 36 inch picture tube tvs I just put them face down on a tire that's on a sled ( washing machine steel cover) and drag them. But grass would have more friction and be harder to pull. I pull the steel sled over long smooth aluminum ladder and dry cardboard.
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I am estimating the JB ( magniciter) and housing weighs in around 500 lbs?? Wondering if 4 guys can pick it up to move from garage to new location 100 feet away. I do not have a trailer or cart that would not damage the soft grass and raised flower bed in the way. My cherry picker would not roll across the area well either
Would 4 average guys be able to put two lifting pipes under the housing and carry it to it's new pad? Ed Sparks and I used to joke that we wanted it portable "just in case"!
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Now that I am eligible for AARP membership, getting hurt does not sound like much fun. I wish I had a nice fork lift but......thinking that the 2 inch pipe and plywood is the way to go. Since I am in the snowy north in WI, I may try and find a single place snow mobile trailer cheap.
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If you use the plywood idea, be sure to lay another piece of plywood under where the 2 pieces of plywood meet for reinforcement. (My $.02, just what it cost you)
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Just go rent a u haul trailer with a low deck. Load gen into trailer, back up trailer to generator pad and unload gen onto it. Save the backs


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If the housing has bottom rails, I would roll the set on a few lengths of 2" dia. iron pipe.
Use 2 sheets of plywood to protect the lawn, and leapfrog them and the pipe as you move the set to it's final spot.
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Myself and one other guy moved a 30 SK aprox. 75' across a wet yard with ease using iron pipe and 2x6 boards to roll it on.
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A search on local craigslist site resulted in locating a cheap converted single place snow mobile tilting trailer. Hope to pick it up Friday after work. I will hoist the JB onto the trailer with the Cherry Picker, drag the Picker to the pad and then use my simplicity 16 hp to drag the trailer. The enclosure came from a staker in Michingan and appears to be for a newer style JB , but it fits nice. Will take photos and will have a couple of questions about open gaps and mouse proofing this weekend. Thanks everyone for feedback. The cost of the trailer would be less than my copays at the ER if I hurt my back or my helpers!
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Moving a JB and enclosure is tricky with just one person! Got it on the trailer with the cherry picker, hooked up to tractor, set it on the pad and connected the muffler. I need to do some more work on muffler and mouse proofing around the sides. This is a Magneciter in a newer enclosure. What should I use to block the mice around the front side where the flywheel is?Click image for larger version

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I use 1/4 inch hardware galvanized screen.
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I hope you did not run over any of those Nandinas or your wife won't be happy !
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The previous owner was a real gardener and we bought the house last fall. So many plants growing this year that a couple will not be missed when the power goes out.

After the relocation, generator fired right up, produced power for 20 minutes with the gas oven on too. Went to start last night and it was popping but would not catch. Will have to remove cover and check it out next weekend.
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Tried to start JB last weekend and would not fire up. Plenty of natural gas popped cover off points and I could see sparks jumping from points to engine. I had replaced condenser last year. Would bad condenser cause sparks or just a good cleaning of points in order? What is the metal switch to left of points in photo?
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I don't know if I'm looking at your picture correctly but the contacts at the top of the photo are the ignition points. The contacts on the bottom are the start-disconnect points. When the engine comes up to speed those contacts close and pull in the ignition relay and also disconnect the starter. If I remember correctly, those should be gapped at .020
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Makes sense. The points (white plastic) were sparking when I cranked it. I know that is not good and will clean them later this week.
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So did you check further to see if you had good spark at the plugs?
From looking at your picture, do you have some engine oil infiltration into the points area?
Some sparking is normal with points and conventional ignition. If you do clean them use some real fine wet or dry like 400 or 600 grit. After dressing the points with abrasive paper, open the points by hand and clean the point contacts with Acetone, Lacquer thinner or electrical contact cleaner and wipe dry and clean with some cotton cloth like from an old T-shirt. Ideally, points are not flat but somewhat convex in their shape.
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