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Old 08-05-2017, 07:25:47 PM
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".... He found a welding shop that will do the work as he desires....."

I would be interested in seeing what this abomination looks like when finished. Then again, how is it going to drive/handle with all that hanging off the rear? Wouldn't want to be anywhere near it on the highway! How about in a nice windy thunderstorm with slick roads....
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Here is an admission of my own BEST thinking....
I owned a 3/4 ton Ford Econoline that I towed with. I bought a BROKEN Econoline that needed an engine, 300ci 6cyl. I was going to replace the engine and re-sell it. I drove 30 miles with my car trailer and picked up the long bed econoline. I then went to a wrecking yard that UPS used to scrap out old package cars. Several of them were turned in with near NEW Ford Dealer Special Order 300ci 6cyl engines. I bought one of the engines with 5,000 miles on it and the scrapper loaded the used engine in the BACK of the Van that was on my car trailer.
So off to the Freeway I go....
I get on the freeway and got up to about 45 mph and all the sudden the van on the car trailer got REAL tail happy from the engine being loaded in the back of the van on the car trailer. About soiled myself! Needless to say, I drove home on the freeway at about 40 mph.

TROLL... You a SMART man!!!
With no disrespect to your friend, I think he is going to pay for an expensive lesson in weight distribution. I sure learned MY lesson with the van.
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Len, it depends on the chassis manufacturer. Ford for example, allows welding when altering the wheelbase or or when installing hitches and hitch crossmembers. Just about every rolloff wrecker you see on a Dodger or Ford chassis is stretched and has welded on frame sections.

With the bigger trucks, it's a mix/match thing. Some will only allow welding for certain mods, some allow none, and others allow anything.

I commonly relocate DEF tanks on the F-550s and the mount brackets get welded directly to the inner side of the rails. The biggest thing is protecting the electronics when doing the weld.
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Jim, Just a question, why do you have to move the DEF tanks on the F550 chassis?
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Here's a pix of my '88 Ford pickup that I did a frame shortening to get back to a standard cab from an extended cab. I welded the frame and added some straps to the bottom of the rails where they are in tension. It's been 12 years since, and I routinely haul 2 tons of gravel or dirt with no problem. My "redneck dump truck" in action.

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Here's a pix of my '88 Ford pickup that I did a frame shortening to get back to a standard cab from an extended cab. I welded the frame and added some straps to the bottom of the rails where they are in tension. It's been 12 years since, and I routinely haul 2 tons of gravel or dirt with no problem. My "redneck dump truck" in action.

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Tom, I LIKE the "Red Neck" dump action for your truck!
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Here's a pix of my '88 Ford pickup that I did a frame shortening to get back to a standard cab from an extended cab. I welded the frame and added some straps to the bottom of the rails where they are in tension. It's been 12 years since, and I routinely haul 2 tons of gravel or dirt with no problem. My "redneck dump truck" in action.

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Tom, I LIKE the "Red Neck" dump action for your truck!
Thanks. It's also handy to see what's going on under the truck. Don't get under it, though!

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Easy way to change a tire
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Here's a pix of my '88 Ford pickup that I did a frame shortening to get back to a standard cab from an extended cab. I welded the frame and added some straps to the bottom of the rails where they are in tension. It's been 12 years since, and I routinely haul 2 tons of gravel or dirt with no problem. My "redneck dump truck" in action.

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I shortened up an '82 GMC C30 to short wheelbase. Stepped the frame or "Z'd" it as some call it to lower the truck. I used pieces of the removed frame as gussets top and bottom. I drove the truck for years with no problems. Now having moved to another province I have an Automotive Engineer involved due to local regulations involving altered vehicles (just to cover my a**). He was cool until he found out I'm swapping a 6V53 Detroit into it. I'm now waiting for the list of hoops I have to jump through
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That's 1700 pounds of iron over the front wheels.. are you turning up the fuel or leaving it stock? Sounds like fun!
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I had a 1973 F250 4X4 with a 4-53T, 4-speed with a 3 speed brownie.
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I had a 1973 F250 4X4 with a 4-53T, 4-speed with a 3 speed brownie.
And I still hate you.......
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I had the above mentioned truck parked in front of my house one evening, sometime in the middle of the night we heard a loud BANG! ran outside to find some drunk kid ran his car into the back of the truck and actually pushed it agead about 2' or 3'. Now we are talking about a 25 MPH residential area here. Kid was mostly OK, I sold the truck.

Boy would it turn heads, I would so enjoy driving thru a grocery store parking lot in granny first gear with the brownie in 1st gear. That thing would just SCREAM as you crept along!!!
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My truck is pretty noisy, too. The mice were tearing up all the noise suppression stuff under the hood, so I ripped it all out. Also removed the baffle in the air cleaner. About the only thing I could sneak up on would be an army tank.
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Thread reminds me of a guy who bought a Studebaker truck from me years ago. He drove up from NJ with a E-150 van, had a little Detroit, 3-53 I think, running though two transmissions, every possible type of gauge on the dash.

It was very cool, but he was running on car tires, and I don't think he had done much to the suspension. He was going to try to fit a V6-53 into the 1 ton Studebaker.
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That's 1700 pounds of iron over the front wheels.. are you turning up the fuel or leaving it stock? Sounds like fun!
I've removed the front cross member and A arms to be replaced with a boxed frame, leaf springs and a straight axle from a newer F550 (with some modifications). The truck is low so the engine is waaayyy back under the fire wall to clear the axle and keep it under the hood. Hood height is only ~44" and the Detroit isn't much less, I should have about 6" ground clearance under the bottom of the axle and oil pan.

It's a 6v53n so non turbo, can step the injectors up to 60's from 50's safely, was in a 76 international fire truck so the governor is already turned up to 3300 Rpm

I was going to use a 5 speed with a 4 spd brownie, but with the engine set back and short wheelbase theres no room for a driveshaft, also the ratio splits still kinda suck with the spicer 5spd main. I scored a freebie 10 over roadranger that should be a nicer match and shorter than the brownie setup.
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