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Twin City 17-28...My Intiation into the Twin Cam Faternity!


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Old 10-06-2015, 11:06:37 PM
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Default Re: Twin City 17-28...My Intiation into the Twin Cam Faternity!

So like the good old I&T repair manuals use to say "Assembly is the Reverse of Disassembly." The transmission assembly went smoothly and was pretty straight forward. I reused the transmission oil and found that I was a few gallons short. I ordered a new pail of 600wt steam cylinder oil and discovered that it was quite a bit thinner than the old oil was. The next start up proved I had gained big time on the previous transmission problems. The gear noise was significantly reduced and the tendency of the belt pulley to run on after the clutch was released was gone. The clutch brake worked great.

I found the factory drawbar to somewhat hazardous because of the risk of the lugs catching the hitch on a short turn. Also it was unhandy to hitch to an implement due to the fact it could not be seen while backing up as it was well under the operators platform. I modified the Oliver hitch by shortening it up by about 1/3 and made a 3 bolt bracket that attaches onto the factory drawbar. The swinging drawbar was a welcome improvement.

Another thing I changed was the seat. It seems that the TC seat was sized medium and I needed a large. I secured an old seat off of a JD "B" the was resting out in "memory lane" that fit me much better.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:43:47 AM
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This is about as clean as it is going to get. I'm hauling it over to Bowdon ND today to see if a plow can be stuck in the ground. It has been quite dry here over the last 2 months and on the ends of the fields where the grain cart and semi trailer traffic has been it is like black cement. I'll post some pictures of the results when I get a chance.
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Man that dirt was hard! Found out the plowing demonstration was canceled due to the dry conditions. Since I already had my equipment there I got the go ahead to try it if I wanted to. I chose to start on a knoll as usually the soil is sandier there. I had to run my little 2-14" #8 IHC plow on its nose and added some weight to keep it in the ground. Plowing deep like that put a good load on the Twin City. I plowed for about 2 hrs and then noticed the vacuum gauge on the oil pump had moved in the yellow indicating that the oil screen was plugging again. I quit for the day and let it cool down. Drained the oil and removed the screen...sure enough plugged again.

For the first time work out with the tractor things went pretty smoothly. I had anticipated the problems with the oil screen. No excessive gear noise and no gushing oil leaks developed. My chief complaint is carburation. It seems there is no real idle circuit in the carb. If it is set rich enough to pull it is too rich for idle. I will need to go through it this winter and see if I can enhance the performance. The throttle shafts are abominably loose and this may part of my problem.

I'll be back in Bowdon tomorrow and plowing weather permitting.
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Ok, I have a random (and possibly dumb) question. The weight you put on the plow, I have one of them. It is just something I acquired over the years, and I got it with the intention of grinding the raised letters (or numbers or whatever it is) off the top and using it as a poor mans anvil. I had no idea what it is/was used for originally. Now seeing it on your plow makes me wonder, Is that what this HEAVY block of metal was made for?! And if so, was it made for a specific plow, or company or whatever? I've never seen another until now.
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As far as I know there are no weights that were made for plows. I'm sure that the plow manufacturers figured that the farmers would be bright enough to wait until soil conditions were right so the plows would easily go in the ground. The weight is off an early self propelled swather. It was used to counterbalance the weight of the header and was placed on the pole with the caster wheels on it. I had also saved this one for anvil use.
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I spent 5 hours in the saddle on Saturday. Only had one mechanical mishap. The float pin jiggled half way out of the carb causing the float to shut off the gas supply. It was easily remedied. I also learned why the operators platform on many of these old tractor allowed a standing position. It was pretty windy on Sat. and after a few rounds the ends of the fields were chewed to powder by the steel lugs. The lugs would carry the soil up and the wind would catch it and blow it across right a face level if I was sitting. I was pretty well sandblasted by the end of the day. Also plowing with the wind caused the tractor to run in a dust cloud. There was dirt in the air cleaner jar by the end of the day and I try not to think of the dust that got sucked in along side those loose throttle shafts.
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Default Re: Twin City 17-28...My Intiation into the Twin Cam Faternity!

Boy don't you know the old timers who actually used our now-antique machinery to make a living were tough old birds! But, like my dad said "It beat the Hell outta smelling mule farts!"

Glad you were able to get out and scratch in the dirt some. I remember a few times when I was able to get out and do a little plowing with some old stuff-dirt never tasted so good!

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I second that! I would love to find a field nearby to "shine the shins" with the old WD.
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That must be a great day for you hearing the noise of that perfect running engine, gearnoise, wind in the face and the nice smell of freshly turned soil.
Also one of my favorite things to do.
I like the patina of dust on greasy spots on the tractor.

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Yes and the eyelids closed to narrow slits searching in the miniature sandstorm when to start turning so I wouldn't miss the next furrow....

When I was working the bugs out of the Twin City I was doing a lot of partial throttle engine operation. The motor came with W-14 Champion spark plugs and I had some problems with them fouling....probably due to the thin oil I was running and the over rich fuel mixture delivered by my uncooperative carburetor. I decided to switch to W-89D Champions for the plowing days and I had zero problems in the ignition department.

It's hard to believe that Champion still manufactures such an antique looking spark plug. The pictures are for those that might not be familiar with this plug number.
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