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Rough casting of the timer body arrived yesterday. Another step closer. Now I need to find a gear cutter.
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Well, it has been just over a year since the last post on this thread. Not any real progress to speak of, but I did finally get a gear cutter bought! Spendy little buggers.
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Been a few years since my last post on this project. Since my last post this engine has sat in a corner and been moved from one storage to another with me seriously considering letting it go. My uncle encouraged me to hold on to it and then it happened. I recently acquired a parts lot with about everything i need to finish this project up without having to machine my castings or cut a gear. I will post pics as the project progresses.

J.B. if you see this, can you help me with detail pics of a timer? Inside and out? Thanks
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Jim,

There is a lot of original paint on your engine, your recently acquired parts will blend in perfect to create a complete original engine. Looks like very little work left.

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That is what im hoping. I was able to locate drawings of the timer from another thread here. There will still need to be something made as the bakelite for the timer is all gone. When i have more time ill be able to compare the parts and drawings and see whats what and whatnot.
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Default Re: 4hp Lockwood Ash

Jeremy, there are two types of timers, points and brush, we call the brush timers a T top. The insulated rings are phenolic, I have a jig to make either, let me know which you need. My friend Jamie has a stamp for the timer covers, he has them etched then stamps them, they look nice.
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Thanks JB. I believe my timer will be brush type and I have a timer cover. Will try to take some pictures of what I have in the morning.
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The timers he picked up were brush type. He should need the insulated ring.

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Here are the parts i picked up
Timer 1 pics 1 and 2
Timer 2 pics 3 and 4
Timer 1 and timer 2 are different. Timer 1 looks like its for 2 brushes maybe whereas timer 2 seems to be closed on one end of the t
Sorry for the sideways pics. Looks like I need to dumb down my camera a bit
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Here is another timer maybe for a points style timer and the timer cover
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Here is the carb and intake manifold and a gear guard. Gear guard seems to be aluminum and is quite different than the one on my engine.

What I didn't notice when I examined the original ad photo was that these parts have obviously been through a fire. The carb, I'm sure, will need to be rebuilt. Everthing will need to be cleaned. But not too cleaned as I want to retain some patina.
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Default Re: 4hp Lockwood Ash

Jeremy, the gear cover fits the early engines, would have a tapped hole in the bottom timer support.
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Ok. Good to know.
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