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Old 07-29-2010, 10:57:42 PM
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Default Saw Mickey Mouse's engine!

Went to Disneyworld earlier this week and saw the Fairbanks Morse type "T" engine at the top of the "THUNDER MOUNTAIN" ride..... Looks to be about an 8 horse with a winch. It looked to be in very good and complete shape!...
I didn't take a camera on the ride with me (thank goodness, 'cause id'a lost it!). But I did get a good close up look at the engine while standing in line for the ride on the runaway mine train!~
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Is Mickeys other engine still there?In that same ride there was a 5hp Bulldog back in '04 when I was there. Rob
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Yes it is still there as well, I was there in March. My boys were excited to see the engines while we were in line as well. Too bad Mickey doesn't have engines in line for every ride!!
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Here is a pic of the FM T at the top of the hill. The other pic is of a similar FM T winching engine that is visible on the second "uphill" part of the ride. The bulldog is in the third pic.
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There as of 2010 are a Fairbanks T a Bulldog and a Quincy steam engine/halfbreed/aircompresser, because i dont know quite what it is!
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I didn't get a look at the others, It was 1:30 in the morning when we got on the ride. So, it was dark and that damn runaway train was doing 200 MPH and I wuz holding on for dear life!
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.....................Too bad Mickey doesn't have engines in line for every ride!!
I'm glad that they don't.................they would just set there and rust away like the other engines.......................

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My wife is dragging me and the kids there in September. Now I have something to look for. Wonder if I brought a big overcoat and slipped them under there.......
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:46:19 AM
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I visited Disney World shortly after it openned, and again 10 years later (my 10th anneversary!). At the first visit, I saw those engines, as well as several others in other venues. I also arrived in the theme park after a ride on one of 2 Oscala steam boats, that acted as ferries (you had a choice of entry - steam boat or Monorail). During the first visit, I went to Communicore - the Epcot visiter computerized information center. There you could ask any question about the park, and usually get an immediate answer. I stumped 'em! I asked them where they got the engines in the park (there are at least 5), and if there were any plans to restore or run them in the future. I ended up getting a personal letter, about a month after the visit. I was told that some engines were on the properties, when they were originally purchased for building the park, and that some were purchased at local auctions, for use in the park. There are no plans to restore them. The people who sent the letter said it took a while to answer my question, because they had to manually look them up! So much for the computer age

On the second visit, the Oscala boats were no longer in service, in fact I did not see them at all. Another visit to Communicore, again did not produce results! No one working there had even heard of the boats! I received a communication from Disney, about 3 months later, stating that the Oscala boats were scrapped! I was told that they were deemed inneficient, that the Monorail system could better serve the park's visitor load, and therefore the boats were taken out of service in 1980. It was determined that it would be too expansive to sell and transport them to another waterway, so they wee broken up and junked. They ran from when the park openned, until they were removed, and had a good service record. Another query about the engies I saw at the park (one was missing from the earlier visit),also yeilded no results, and that one too was answered later - It turned out that one engine had been moved to another area, and I had not seen it the second time around.

For those interested, the boats were rear paddlewheelers, with authentic live steam propulsion. The rear paddle was the crankshaft, just like the old Mississippi steamers. They were fired with oil. Notice I said 'boats' rather than ships - to beat maritime licensing regulations, and insurance costs, the boats were 5/8" short of making the length required to be called a ship! The 2 boats were commissioned by Disney, and were constructed on site. The boats were really interesting, as the entire workings were visible thru glass windows around the bioiler and engine cylinder bay.

Too bad they are gone
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Out here at Disneyland there is a 6hp T and about a 12 Foos on big thunder mountain and a 6hp Z winch and a 4hp Almo on indiana jones ride and about a 15 or 20 hp Western winch on big thunder mountain ride... all very nice engine
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That FBM-T looks like its placed to run the stamp mill. Nice engine. I had seen pics of these before but didnt realise at the time they were actual old engines (I didnt look too hard). I just assumed it was something the Prop guys at Disney had thrown together.
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Disney World does have one steam powered paddelwheel boat, it is called the Liberty Belle. Neat steam boat.
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the Liberty Belle.
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There are, in fact, 2 compressors on Thunder Mtn RR. One is at the very end of the ride, and the other is in a shed type structure that the coaster goes through at one point (just before the second, FM T if I recall). This one is sometimes turned by some type of motor. There is also a large compound compressor in the Tower of Terror ride at Hollywood Studios that could easily be mistaken for an engine.

In addition to the Liberty Bell, there are three steam locomotives (Baldwins, I believe) that ferry passengers around the outside of Majic Kingdom. IIRC, these were rescued from Central or South Americs by Walt hisself. These are now fired by oil, but they still use steam engines.
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What is the belt driven drum that is setting behind the bulldog? Bob
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I must be aging, I go to Disney just to ride each of the steam trains operating at the time and the riverboat and then do it again and again until it is time to leave. Disney seems to own a large portion of the operating large scale steam in Florida other than traction engines.......................

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I had a bright idea to ask if I could possibly ride in the cab of the steam train. But, I thought better of it....I'm sure I would have to get special permission from someone hiigher up than those in the park.
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Bob, that drum is a rock or ore tumbler. It sure would make a nice display running at a local show.
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David, you can schedule to tour the trains. It costs around $140. But you get to be with them as they fire up the trains. I think it says it lasts around 3 hours. I will be doing that when our daughter is old enough to go with us. Here is a link to the details.

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Disney World also used to have the Fort Wilderness trains that transported guests staying in the RV park to the amusement park. The 4 engines and most of the coaches have been saved and are in various stages of restoration.

David,
At Disneyland you can get tender rides. You just ask at the Main Street station or at city hall.

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