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22 Horsepower Gould, Shapley, and Muir opposed twin engine


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Old 04-29-2013, 01:29:28 PM
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JS, there are more out there than you think.
Yes there is. Back when we had that one it was the only one known so no parts to copy. It is truly amazing how more and more things that used to considered 1 of a kind aren't anymore. The hobby is alive and well!
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There were a bunch of amazing engines to look at but for some reason, this one really stood out. Its kind of overwhelming to look through a collection like Laurens, there are so many interesting things that you dont even remember everything you looked at. This was one of the engines that stood out. One of the other engines that stood out was one that didnt have a fuel line, instead a enclosed chain ran from a gear \ pulley by the head down into the fuel tank. As the chain moved down into the fuel tank and back up to the head, a small amount of fuel clings to the chain and is carried with it and must be flung off as it moves around the upper gear\pulley. From there it is used in the combustion cycle. One of the most unique fuel deliver systems I have seen.

We looked at sideshafts, camstoppers, gearless engines and more Fairbanks Morse Ns than you can shake a stick at. Not to mention the 40-80 Avery which is about as impressive as anything.

Thanks to Lauren for showing us around and a fantastic trip.

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There were a bunch of amazing engines to look at but for some reason, this one really stood out. Its kind of overwhelming to look through a collection like Laurens, there are so many interesting things that you dont even remember everything you looked at. This was one of the engines that stood out. One of the other engines that stood out was one that didnt have a fuel line, instead a enclosed chain ran from a gear \ pulley by the head down into the fuel tank. As the chain moved down into the fuel tank and back up to the head, a small amount of fuel clings to the chain and is carried with it and must be flung off as it moves around the upper gear\pulley. From there it is used in the combustion cycle. One of the most unique fuel deliver systems I have seen.

We looked at sideshafts, camstoppers, gearless engines and more Fairbanks Morse Ns than you can shake a stick at. Not to mention the 40-80 Avery which is about as impressive as anything.

Thanks to Lauren for showing us around and a fantastic trip.

Here is a photo of the engine we were looking at.
Sounds like a Hagan with chain drive carb.
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Hi .............. I recognize that engine as being from eastern Ontario, it was restored in the seventies by a fellow from Peterborough ON, Canada and it was rescued from a abandont building in Tweed Ontario, the engine had fallen trough the floor into the basement. The building was a woodworking shop that specialized in making cheese boxes.
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Here is one that made it to Coolsprings 2007 show.
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Tom, I seen a video of yours running but I can't find it. Can you post it ?
I hate to say that I don't have one.
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Hi .............. I recognize that engine as being from eastern Ontario, it was restored in the seventies by a fellow from Peterborough ON, Canada and it was rescued from a abandont building in Tweed Ontario, the engine had fallen trough the floor into the basement. The building was a woodworking shop that specialized in making cheese boxes.
Very interesting. This is the same GSM that our friend Orville Babcock brought to Michigan from Ontario. He had gone there to a small auction and was "tapped on the shoulder" with a "Would you be interested in...?" I do not know the year. We realized that season would be a good time to leave our stuff home and help them show the engine. I think it was shown at 6 shows that season, most notably, Portland where by circumstance (rain, some had left) and chance, we ended up at a prime spot with the awning that was supposed to be at the campground. Put awning over engine and run! One of the few running because of the rain.

Many people later thought it was our engine because we were with it so much. Have many good memories with Orville and Irene Babcock. The GSM later went thru one other's hands and then to Lauren. Good to hear of it again.
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Thanks! I actually saw your video. I love the sound of that thing! I'd love to see one run in person.
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Anyone know bore and stroke and/or compression ratio of the GSM 22 hp twin engines? And flywheel diameter?

Thanks Jeff Dayman

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Default Re: 22 Horsepower Gould, Shapley, and Muir opposed twin engine

There's still a few up here, but quite a few have migrated south of the border.

Really wish we'd acted quicker on the 60hp monster that I think used to be @ Baraboo. That thing is a behemoth!!

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