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1/3 Scale Case Baler


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Old 03-06-2018, 08:16:44 PM
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I've heard tell, that a bale sells for 4 to 5 bucks a wack....at least around Halloween...
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I read that 8 bales/hr. is the norm. If I figured right at about 50,000 bales this hobby will have broke even if you don't figure any labor. We used to bale from 25 to 30,000 (full size) bales/year when I was kid. Couple of years I'll be out of the red.
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Now you just need to find some third scale cows to feed......
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there's a roll of bailing wire on a square tube spindle to match the wire rolls with a 16gage disc on either side to prevent tangles this is free to spin on a bolt going thru a 1x1 sq tube about 3-4 ft long there is a spring loaded friction washer bearing against the top disc the wire feeds thru a couple of spring loaded steel straps wing nuts on all of these for adjusting spring tension. then feeds to the far end where there is a hand cranked shaft with a hook on it mounted in bronze bearings . make it so the hooks are replace able with a set screw comming in from the side of the shaft . so the procedure is thread the wire thru the straps with a line man plier, pulling it up to the hook and about an 1 inch past then bend it back around the hook in a u shape with the plier gripping across the hook give 3 -5 turns the use the side cutter on the pliers to clip the wire off to the right length ( to be determined by bale size) then repeat about jillion times. I'd send a pic but its out in the garage crammed in the back with the bailer. Ive been just giving the bales away or give them to the show to sell kids really love them people like them and the show is more rewarding for the people and usually the show supplies the straw some people will give you a couple bucks to recoupe wire cost other people will just try to grab as many as possible go figure.
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I do about the same thing to make the wires. I have the roll of wire spin on a bolt, and I clamp it in the vise on my workbench. I have a mark on the bench for length, roll the wire out and cut them. Then I have a hook that I put in a cordless drill, wrap the end of the wire around the hook, hold it with pliers and give it a spin with the drill. It makes a nice tight loop. I always give the bales away, everyone loves them.
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Some progress. Forming the board launcher took 3 tries including a change in tactics. I couldn't get an accurate job done on the press brake. I changed to a piece of channel milled to 1 5/16. Clamped the stock to it and used the heat and beat method. Ended up with a very uniform accurate formed part. Then the dog spring forming operation involved various pliers, hammers, vises. I used a spring with a 9/16 hole .081 diameter wire. The bracket was also formed on the channel iron using the heat and beat method,
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The print shows a (folder). It is vague on where and how it is mounted in front of the board dropper. I don't see a purpose for it. In looking at videos it look like some have left it out.
The way it looks on the print there isn't room for it to go in front of the board dopper. Anybody who has built one have any advise?
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I actually scaled mine from my 1/6 scale prints and it didn't have one but if you'd take a pic of the print I'd be pretty curious . I believe it has some thing to do with not having shaggy bails not sure how it would interact with bad board drops there's not alot of room like you say.
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I watched some more utube videos. The folder hangs straight down just behind where the board drops. It is spring loaded. As the plunger comes back the folder catches the top and holds the straw as the plunger moves forward. It looks like it eliminates the shaggy bale ends. I will have to cut the top of the bale chamber back to accomodate it. A few things on the prints I have are not very clear. Some of the dimensions are not legible. Sometimes you have to scale things and compare to known dimension. Other than that the design is very functional.
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