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Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling


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Old 02-11-2018, 04:29:57 PM
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Default Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

Dang, I've been looking for a reasonably priced, large gap bed lathe for a couple of years. Unfortunately this one is all the way across the continent from me. CK
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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

I saw that posted on the PM site, the thread is now locked, but poster did get an invitation to re-post in the "antique" category.

I looked at one of these last year, it was in super nice condition, and the sliding bed was an interesting feature, but I passed because it really did not fill my needs.

Another interesting feature, which I was in the process of commenting on when thread got locked, is how the faceplate is powered. That gear hanging out the front of gearbox is engaged to drive the faceplate on a gear on the backside of the faceplate. Neat old machine, I might be interested at the right price.

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That is a pretty neat design with the sliding bed. Clever!
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That would be the s**t for facing flywheels.
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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

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Another interesting feature, which I was in the process of commenting on when thread got locked, is how the faceplate is powered. That gear hanging out the front of gearbox is engaged to drive the faceplate on a gear on the backside of the faceplate. Neat old machine, I might be interested at the right price.

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https://reno.craigslist.org/tls/d/sm...492418308.html
I'd say the price is already right at $2500.00

That 28 inch face plate alone could be worth that if you needed it.

Buy the Face Plate and get a free gap bed lathe with it, complete with Taper Attachment. . . What's Not To Love.

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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

Main problem is money is tight, and it does not really add to the capacity I already have. Current lathe lineup is 9x18, 12x36 and 26x30(maybe 32 or 36, I forget), so I've been looking for something with a longer C-C distance. The Smith-Drum will stretch out to 54" c-c, but in that configuration you cannot work close to the chuck, that was the deal killer for me last year.

I'm seeing a lot of really good deals on machines right now, not sure if its just a dip in the market, maybe all the manual stuff is being replaced by cnc, or its just so many of the old guys are retiring or dying. I just need more money!

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The ad says 40" c-c extended, if that is exact same model as the one I looked at (which I think it is), it will extend out to 54"c-c, but you have to disconnect the drive rod or something like that, I forget the exact details, but seem to remember something had to be done with drive rod. What are swing and c-c with gap closed?
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Wish I was closer ..... and had the space! 2000 lbs. seems on the low side.
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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

Doug, yeah it could be more, I am just guessing. Maybe 2500#? Big faceplate alone is probably just under 200#.

Dalgal, will measure extended c - c today but swing when closed up is 14". Kinda cool the slide is powered by the lead screw. Also you are correct. The big faceplate is driven by a dedicated gear train. The spindle is put into neutral and acts as an idler shaft. Since I posted the ad I have been contacted by others that also think 54" is correct.

Just got off the phone with a gent from Texas. He ran one of these in Alaska, seems they were the centerpiece in a mobile machine shop in a 6x6 military truck used for field repair.

Just looked at my photos. Screws were pretty dirty in pics. Now cleaned like the rest of the machine! Oops.

OK, so here it is. I ran the upper sliding bed all the way out and I can see 42" c-c, but that is it. I have noticed that some of these that I have seen photos of have a longer slide on them. Fully closed they extend past the lower bed, this one does not.
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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

There's one sitting on the side of the road near Athens. You can see it on google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8891...7i13312!8i6656
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Default Re: Smith Drum Gap Bed Engine Lathe with Tooling

Sliding gap lathes have been around for quite awhile. The first one I used looked like this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-40-x-72-...sAAOSw-olZ8Her

Axelson made some although LeBlond is probably the best known for theirs.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Le-BLOND-Re...8AAOSw5UZY-TYA

A bunch of them listed here on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...lathe&_sacat=0

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