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Ahh thank you very much. I'll wait.

The amazing thing to me is that this level of detail is even available at all!

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Ahh thank you very much. I'll wait.

The amazing thing to me is that this level of detail is even available at all!

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Model 5CCK-3P/1C and left the Onan factory 8-8-1957.

Closest build sheet I found is for a spec K from ten years later.
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So that makes it a spec "C" for future reference.

saw some shredded paper around the starter, so opened it up to find this.


The oil presure cutoff wire had some insulation stripped - maybe a cause of missing spark...


Got the 12v starter off - it isn't retracting from the ring gear, so needs a bit of TLC. I think I'm glad he couldn't get this running with this junk inside.

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Thank you for the build sheet!
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Working on the starter for this CCK last night.

It doesn't seem to disengage from the ring gear.

Took the starter apart and the spiral that slides the gear in and out doesn't move more than about 1/8". I figure it needs to move at least 3/8". Not wanting to force anything until I understand what it should look like and do. Can this be taken apart and cleaned/lubricated/repaired or is it a fixed assembly?

This is fully extended (about 3/16 of the spiral showing)

and fully retracted (about 1/16 of the spiral showing)


Should it go further in the extended position (seems to be hitting something there) or the retracted position. It seems like it needs to go another 1/4-3/8 in the retracted position and the spiral would be totally covered.

I can't seem to find many threads on these older starters with no bendix/solenoid in them. - anybody have some I can look at (or search terms to find them).

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PS - the set screw for that spiral assembly is loose in the pictures - it should be slid a bit down the shaft and tightened up, I had just slid it off the shaft to look at it.
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Working on the starter for this CCK last night.

It doesn't seem to disengage from the ring gear.

Took the starter apart and the spiral that slides the gear in and out doesn't move more than about 1/8". I figure it needs to move at least 3/8". Not wanting to force anything until I understand what it should look like and do. Can this be taken apart and cleaned/lubricated/repaired or is it a fixed assembly?

This is fully extended (about 3/16 of the spiral showing)

and fully retracted (about 1/16 of the spiral showing)


Should it go further in the extended position (seems to be hitting something there) or the retracted position. It seems like it needs to go another 1/4-3/8 in the retracted position and the spiral would be totally covered.

I can't seem to find many threads on these older starters with no bendix/solenoid in them. - anybody have some I can look at (or search terms to find them).

David M
looks like a old ford starter drive
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dmeed, I have a starter like that on a 1962 JB. I had the same thoughts and issues with it not retracting. I found out that it doesn't retract until the motor starts and spins the starter up. The same design was used on old tractors. Hope this helps, Dan
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Ahhh - so when the motor starts and spins the ring gear it spins the starter and disengages it.

Wonder why it won't move manually into the disengaged position?? Some kind of centrifugal clutch ?? Oh, well. Will have to try it.

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