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Old 04-08-2017, 11:04:20 AM
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Default Onan vs. Generac Death Match II

There may be a Death Match II in the near future (maybe). While down of the municipal dump this morning to drop off my Jeep Cherokee's old exhaust that fell off earlier this week, I found a Generac iX2000 in the Appliance Pile of Death.

Against better judgement of polluting an Onan environment in my garage, I loaded the Generac into my vehicle and took it home. I did not spend much time on it, but it is a no start however it has compression. The gas smelled fresh and upon popping off the side cover it was serviced in 4/2016. Upon a very quick inspection, I assume it has no spark, but I do not have time to look into it now.

If I can get it to run, I would like to find an 2,000 watt Onan, service both generators then run both side by side at 80% or more rated capacity in an even competition match until one of the two dies of horrible fate. For those that remember, I ran a 4.0 BFA against a China junker Champion 4000. The Champion 4000 was new out of the box and only survived 26 (or was it 28 hours) until it threw a rod and the block cracked.

Below are several pictures of the Generjunk.

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Old 04-08-2017, 11:57:03 AM
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I would of picked it up to.. being so easy to get to.. You need a lk or aj now
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:14:05 PM
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Or maybe a 2.8KV MicroLite...
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Or maybe a 2.8KV MicroLite...
I would be reluctant to guess which one would die first.
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:22:24 PM
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I bet at least half those appliances could be brought back to life easily.
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:46:58 PM
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Most of them probably can be brought back easily. One of my friends has a friend that works at a municipal dump. When he sees anything that looks good, into the back of his truck it goes, and is delivered to my friend, who fixes it in most cases, then it's sold on Craigslist and they split the money. Most repairs are just clean the carburetor, replace a switch, or a new magneto. In a lot of cases the item is a current model still being sold in Sears or Home Depot.

The reason it's at the dump is people can't repair it themselves, and the service shops want $100 to $200 up front just to look at it. It's more cost effective just to buy a new one.

Unfortunately, the dump in my area has a "no picking" policy, or I would have a nice easy source of spare cash.
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:18:23 PM
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Default Re: Onan vs. Generac Death Match II

Uh-oh, I think the "i" in the iX2000 model number may indicate that it's an inverter unit. You may have to break out the soldering pencil after you get the engine running.
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:24:52 PM
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Regarding the appliances seen in the dump and bringing them back to life.

Yes, most can be brought back to life. Although most, if not all the appliances made cheaply, frequently I can find 2 or three compatible appliances and build 1 good one. What you see is only one pile. There are other piles such as the cast iron pile, aluminum pile, steel pile and dumpsters for just about everything including electronics. I find all kinds of neat things in the dump almost weekly.

As for what gets dumped, it pisses me off at times. It is so sad that most people in my area will throw away almost perfectly good items, only to go and purchase new items for replacement. At times I am baffled. Maybe folks in my area have too much money to be bothers to fix something minor, or too dumb to know how to fix anything. Maybe both. Lots of pencil pushers here, but they lack total common sense and physical mechanical ability.

Their loss, my gain...

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Uh-oh, I think the "i" in the iX2000 model number may indicate that it's an inverter unit. You may have to break out the soldering pencil after you get the engine running.
Yes, it is an inverter. I googled it earlier.

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Old 04-08-2017, 01:31:44 PM
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Washers and dryers are the best. If you see a pair on the curb, it's a good bet at least one of them is working fine. One broke, and the people decided they want a matched pair so they throw them both away.

Funny thing is, sometimes they are both working just fine. I guess the owner just wanted a different color.
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I've found and fixed lot of nice stuff on the curb. Never bought a snow blower or lawn mower since I was a kid.

As a kid parents made me mow the lawn with a old fashion push reel mower, no engine, human powered. At around 14 I found a couple junk 3hp lawn mowers and swapped parts to make a running one. ( one had broke crank other broke rod). Then I mowed the lawn with power, no more pushing.
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Update on the Generjunk. As I suspected, there is no spark. I pulled the plug and it was wet from gas. Earlier when trying to start it, there was absolutely no signs of it firing over.

So, the problem was be an electrical problem in the Generjunk or the spark plug. Since this is a Generjunk, I would bet the problem is NOT the spark plug. This is all the time I plan to spend on this p.o.s. today.

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*** If for some reason that a repair part would cost too much, I have a "Plan B" for the Generac (Plan A is Death Match II).

I want to construct a electric mechanical arm that will swing a cement filled pipe. Essentially, it will be a mechanical batting arm that will continuously swing the pipe with lots of force.

I want rig the Generac so it securely hangs from a tree on a chain. The electo-mechanical batting device will be 100% powered by my Onan 6.5NH and will be positioned so the cement filled pipe continuously beats the crap out of the Generac until nothing is left. I can stream the action live over the internet as I did for the Death Match. We can make friendly bets as to how long the Generac lasts until it is unrecognizable or maybe raise a few dollars to help Harry's administrative costs for this site as we did for the Death Match. Open to any and all ideas.

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Bit of a side track but here's an idea for a different interesting video. Bolt up that cement pipe off center to an engine and clamp whole thing to a tall old dead tree. Then run the engine at different speeds till the tree vibrates in several S shapes and video it cracking the top ~ 1/6 off the tree. Then increase rpm and do it several more times. Guessing 3 hp will do it. I got a few tall ones near house and power line that have to come down piece by piece, before they choose the time to come down in 1 piece.
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Bit of a side track but here's an idea for a different interesting video. Bolt up that cement pipe off center to an engine and clamp whole thing to a tall old dead tree. Then run the engine at different speeds till the tree vibrates in several S shapes and video it cracking the top ~ 1/6 off the tree. Then increase rpm and do it several more times. Guessing 3 hp will do it. I got a few tall ones near house and power line that have to come down piece by piece, before they choose the time to come down in 1 piece.
Len, the idea is to destroy the Generac in the most horrific way, not my trees.

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Destroying it in the most horrific way requires getting it running. Wide open throttle, governor disconnected, wound out until it is about ready to blow on its own, then drop a water balloon down the intake. Just be sure to be standing where you won't get perforated by the scattering parts.
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Just shoot the genajunk unit. Put it out of it's misery.
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Just shoot the genajunk unit. Put it out of it's misery.
I would like to, but this state is mostly ran by libs and if you fire off an air gun and get caught, you go to jail . Ask me how I know....

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Destroying it in the most horrific way requires getting it running. Wide open throttle, governor disconnected, wound out until it is about ready to blow on its own, then drop a water balloon down the intake. Just be sure to be standing where you won't get perforated by the scattering parts.
How about dropping it into a huge bucket of boiling oil while it's running?

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I would be reluctant to guess which one would die first.
Well, off from the start the Generjunk is already dead

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I want rig the Generac so it securely hangs from a tree on a chain. The electo-mechanical batting device will be 100% powered by my Onan 6.5NH and will be positioned so the cement filled pipe continuously beats the crap out of the Generac until nothing is left. I can stream the action live over the internet as I did for the Death Match. We can make friendly bets as to how long the Generac lasts until it is unrecognizable or maybe raise a few dollars to help Harry's administrative costs for this site as we did for the Death Match. Open to any and all ideas.

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JohnnyC- if u get the generjunk running i have a 2.2 onan that the Briggs threw a rod on. Have been looking for a 5HP tapered shaft motor but no luck yet.

The gen end is perfect, you just need the engine, yours for the taking for the death match, just need a engine. If not i will just keep hunting, really love that little gen, portable and made me gazillions when i was a builder, Ed.
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JohnnyC- if u get the generjunk running i have a 2.2 onan that the Briggs threw a rod on. Have been looking for a 5HP tapered shaft motor but no luck yet.

The gen end is perfect, you just need the engine, yours for the taking for the death match, just need a engine. If not i will just keep hunting, really love that little gen, portable and made me gazillions when i was a builder, Ed.
Thanks! BTW - I replaced the spark plug on the Generjunk and it starts, but dies after 2 seconds. This happens consistently. It is not a fuel problem. Did a quick Google and this problem for Generjunks seem to be common. That's all the time I plan to spend on that p.o.s. today.

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Just kill it!
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