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Onan vs. Generac Death Match II


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Old 04-09-2017, 02:03:10 PM
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Specfrickintacular
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:27:38 PM
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Would be more fun to have it catch on fire and blow up while over loaded. Just smashing it is OK, but having it kill itself = win.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:53:10 PM
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Death Match II Update:

Cancel the death Match. As you may know, I got the stupid Generac to run. The problem was the oil pressure switch. No big deal. After putting the dumb thing together, the pull start recoil rope broke. Actually, it was not the rope, but the recoil mechanism. As of now, the rope is fully extended and does not want to recoil back into the mechanism. I don't want to spend too much time of this piece of garbage. I will keep it for now, but I need to keep focus on the JB refurbishing project. Also, Spring has arrive and I got lots of yard work to do...

As a side note, I down loaded the manual for the Generac. I was amazed when I read the "Run Time" specifications (see yellow highlighted line in the picture below). What exactly is the Run Time spec telling me???? I see this as I can only run the p.o.s. at 400 watts continuous (25% of full rated load)and no longer than 5.7 hours??? I must be wrong. Right??

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Old 04-12-2017, 11:00:51 PM
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"Run time" in G*****c speak is how long a tank of fuel will last- so if you fill it up it will run 5.7 hours at 25% load, then you are in the dark until you get more fuel in it.

---------- Post added at 10:00:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58:52 PM ----------

Gotta love that 50 watt reserve for "surge" capacity.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:30:04 PM
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are you sure that you want to cancel the death match?
i have an aj 2.5 that i would be willing to use as the competitor

i will be in your area next week.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:57:16 PM
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Why is it that the spec sheets for this modern junk so rarely states the SPEED?!?
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:52:25 AM
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are you sure that you want to cancel the death match?
i have an aj 2.5 that i would be willing to use as the competitor

i will be in your area next week.
Thanks Scoops. There will be time to play after I get the JB painted which hopefully will be no later than 2025.

Where are you going to be heading next week?

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Old 04-13-2017, 11:29:33 AM
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Why is it that the spec sheets for this modern junk so rarely states the SPEED?!?
Speed is variable, it's an inverter set
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:21:51 PM
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Oil pressure switch must be a common failure on Generac , mine was dead too
(5500 XL, red frame)
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Speed is variable, it's an inverter set
Ah, even more reason it would be neat to see it. Would be interesting to see the range of speed from no load to full load. Have seen some of these that they allow to scream even more than 3600 rpm. No thank you lol.
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Heck Johnny.. get it running, Sell the thing and recoup some $$$ for you JB project. Just a thought. Maybe someone from India or China will buy it?
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Thanks Scoops. There will be time to play after I get the JB painted which hopefully will be no later than 2025.

Where are you going to be heading next week?

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i'll be in morristown for a few days
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Humanity is a sad bunch and I don't think it can be corrected.

The water heater in my house, as the furnace, is original from 1976.

A friend from work has been upset for the last few days because his water heater is leaking. He had a plumber replace it 6 years ago and it failed in 2. So it was replaced for free. Now it failed again but he got his 6 years under warranty so no more warranty.

We got out of work early today and I had errands, and he went looking at water heaters. We met at the tavern afterwards.

He told me there is a whole isle of water heaters on display??? And some have the capability of monitoring its temperature or performance on a cell phone. Excuse me, who buys this stuff???

There are computers on washers, dryers, water softeners, dishwashers, and everything else, and when they fail they are not worth fixing.

Aside from the electronics failing, they refuse to produce products that can even last mechanically as was produced in the past. And everyone is forced to accept it.
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I was talking with a friend yesterday she told me that her 5 year old samsung gas dryer had failed the repair man told her it was not worth fixing good thing she has an extended warantee lowes where she bought it contacted her saying a check will be coming her way for the full amount with the sales tax, now she is waiting for the repair man her washer is acting up both purchased at the same time....
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You guys should buy all American made clothes dryers like Speed Queen Commercial with out all those bells and whistles, just a simple easy to use machine. Our previous Sears dryer lasted 16 years!
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The washer and dryer we use here are both over thirty years old.

This is an example of the reason I always urge the mantra "older is better". It's no joke.

My wife and I own a care home for the elderly- lots of laundry gets done there! A few years ago the staff told me there was something wrong with the washer, so I bought a new one, since I didn't have a spare on standby at the time. All the controls were electronic, and the POS failed by doing all sorts of stupid things, just out of warranty.

By that time I had acquired a machine that was around twenty years old, so I installed that, and it's never given me a lick of trouble.

Our economy needs to be largely based on repairing and rebuilding good products, not throwing away (or *recycling*- same as throwing away) JUNK.

Keith
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A few years ago my washing machine broke. I go to the laundromat to wash clothes. The thing is taking forever to finish. The lady tells me the new machines have sensors in them, if you put to much detergent in them they shut down and start over to rinse and wont stop until they see a certain amount of dryness or something.

Mark buys a water heater today and I go to help him install it. He e-mailed me last night about the fittings the plumber used. Sharkbite.

Sort of a quick disconnect fitting with "o" rings inside to eliminate the need of an old fashioned pipe union. The connections had to be shortened by about an inch, what a hassle trying to work with those things.

And they will not last as long as the positive connection of the old fashioned pipe union.

Sorry about my rant.
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He told me there is a whole isle of water heaters on display??? And some have the capability of monitoring its temperature or performance on a cell phone. Excuse me, who buys this stuff???
MILLENIALS! They love this s&!#.
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Speed queen still makes washers and dryers with mechanical timers on them. They are pretty popular with laundromats, so they can't be too bad. I've got a late 80's Maytag washer-dryer pair. They both have had little things go wrong with them, but so far really have been easy fixes.

If I had a little money to do a startup, I'd be tempted to make a basic washer-dryer pair but put just a touch of technology into it, wisely. For instance, run the washer with a stepper motor, and eliminate the transmission. The problem isn't the new technology, the problem is that they try too hard to run the thinnest engineering margins possible, and it bites them (us) on the ass.
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Take the recoil mech off and make it a "Contractor pull start"
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