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The ABC of Engine-Driven Generators & Control


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Old 04-08-2017, 11:50:51 AM
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Default The ABC of Engine-Driven Generators & Control

Hello Fellow Stakers:

Going through my files I came across a this 32 page color brochure which I think would be of great interest to some of you folks. Seriously, it is beautifully put together by the Electric Machinery MFG. Company, Minneapolis, Minn. Oh, I would say back in the 1960's.

To quote the cover page:

"It was published for engine manufacturers, engineers and operators to help gain more effective application and operation of AC generators."

Here are the titles of the chapters:

1) Definitions, Formulas, Symbols
2) How A-C current is generated
3) Electrical Characteristics of A-C Generators
4) Insulation and Temperature Rise
5) Generator Standards and Accessories
6) Selection and Application of Generators
7) Generator Switchgear

I am attaching the cover page. Not sure how I can make it available to those interested except to US mail a full color copy to anyone interested. Obviously this document represents the state of the art back when the D.W. Onan Company was in business and NOT necessarily what is made today - but many of the same principle still apply.

To do justice to this document, I think it has to be reproduced and mailed to anyone so interested. I am willing to make it available to my fellow Stakers.

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Old 04-08-2017, 12:12:34 PM
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Not having an electrical background but a mechanical one, I would find this interesting I am sure. Please let me know how to attain a copy when you have them available.
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:22:25 PM
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Ken this is a perfect document for the layman. It answers many questions that frequently come up on the Stak, like insulation and temperature rise for machines built in the era of the old Onans. Let's see how much response we get which will determine the best way to make it available.
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I'd like to have a copy, if possible, thanks! Richard
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If you have a computer scanner I think that's the easiest and cheapest way to distribute it.
Easy to turn the jpegs scans into a pfd.
I'ld be interested in a pfd copy.
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Old 04-08-2017, 02:47:04 PM
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len K yes I could do that. But this doc is 32 pages and my scanner color reproduction is not the best. See my attachment of page 1 in post #1 above. I need to have a way to get better color reproduction. I will see what I can do.

Len K here is the best I seem to be able to do with respect to color on my scanner. See attached. This is page 3, btw.

I am think I will wait to see how many are interested in a full color repro copy and then go outside and have it done.

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I'm in on this one Leon, Ben
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Default Re: The ABC of Engine-Driven Generators & Control

How about this...........

Folks that want a nice copy, send Leon some funds so he isn't out of his pocket sharing something good like that with us. Leon would then be able to go to a local Office Depot/Staples or the like of such and have it reproduced in a professional manner.

You OK with that Leon?

Have no idea at the cost but would think somewhere between $7.50 and $10.00 should do it, also cover the mailing cost. Heck, that's one night's beer money.
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Scan quality...Hard to tell if low resolution is scanner or the Stak cutting down on file size. To keep resolution high would likely have to scan it and either email it or post it on one of those free posting sites.

I have a color hp scanjet 3400C that seems to do a good job with the XP operating system, if I see something on Craigslist I can drop it off for you to scan with while I drive on to pick up my thing and I can pick up the scanner on my way back. Thing is I likely won't get down your way soon, unless I see a free gen or JBLs on CL.

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Old 04-08-2017, 03:36:55 PM
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I have no problem with what ever it takes to get a nice copy and to cove some time and expense money. Give me a $ and where to send it.
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I,m interested too Leon. Bill H.
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Gunny, I like your suggestion. I have had this doc squirreled away in my three hole binder since 1968. I really think it is worth making good copies. Monday I will investigate possible authentic reproduction sources I do want to make available only excellent copies. It would be nice to capture some of the cost involved should the demand be sufficient. The document is double sided so that cuts the mailing costs in half.
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Count me in for a pdf as well.
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Default Re: The ABC of Engine-Driven Generators & Control

I'm in for one as well!
Sounds like an intriguing read

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in either form... PDF or Color Copy
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Sign me up also Leon THANKS! Bill.
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Same here Leon, Thx Paul
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I am interested. I can put some money in the pot or I can scan it and save it as a PDF

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I to am interested. I wonder if there is a online printer in which we can pay them for the printing and mailing and all we need is the file sent to them. Keeps Leon from bothering with printing and mailing.
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Our son will take the original to work Monday. He has access to a laser printer and most interesting, he can create a PDF of the document. He will email the PDF version to me and at the same time make a hopefully high quality copy for me. When he gets home, I will compare Both versions and select the best copy version for distribution. I will print on my HP6200 a color copy from his email and compare it to the laser copy he brings home.

Hopefully the emailed version is suitable for you all. Otherwise, he will take a ream to work and crank out X copies. More later.
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PFDs are NICE, can easily magnify for old eyes.

And make C size (large) prints of schematics and stuff using poster option and a regular printer on standard 8.5 x 11 inch paper
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