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Looking for information on a 16? hp Keck Gonnerman


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Old 11-13-2009, 01:38:28 AM
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Default Looking for information on a 16? hp Keck Gonnerman

Probably not the usual question, but i'm trying to learn the wear abouts and disposition of a keck 16hp side mounted single steam traction engine.

I live in Portland Oregon now, but grew up in Seymour Indiana. While in highschool, I operated a steam engine owned by Bill Hellwig of Cortland Indiana. He passed away while I was in the millitary. Not long after he died the engine was sold and I've heard nothing about it or seen it since.

I can provide details about the engine to prove it too, such as there are two welded stay rivits on the front of the fire box. I know, I was with then engine when they started hissing, and was there when "smokey" crawled inside the fire box on top of an 18 wheeler tire flap to weld them.

It will also have steel squash plates on the lubricator. The cast iron ones broke one night at the jackson county fair. We tried brazing the broken unit back together, it didn't hold, so the bishop brothers turned two new ones for us out of steel.

I don't recall the engine number. I do recall it had rear mounted water tanks and shaker grates.
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:13:09 AM
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Polyhead, welcome to Smokestak. When was this? I lived in Seymour '99-2001 Don't remember this engine but there was plenty of old iron around. Good luck finding the 16 Kay Gee
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Polyhead,
Welcome to stak. There are only 3 or 4 16 HP Kecks left in existence, so I doubt it will be too much trouble to track down. The smokstak member known as HalfKeck has one of the 16's, he can probably tell you who are the current owners of the rest. His is in TN, and one of the other 16's is in TN also.
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Would like to know if this turns up as well. Right now I have only been able to track down four 16's, two here in TN and two in Ohio. I am not thinking that any of these that I know of is the one you mention, as I know a little of the history of each of them. Always looking for new info though. Got any pics?
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:09:39 AM
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Default Re: Looking for information on a 16 Keck Gonnerman

Maybe it was an 18hp then. Bill did often say he wasn't sure.

I do recall the boiler being longer than most other traction engines I have seen, as well as the fire box being a bit deeper and longer than most.

The sad truth is I just never got enough time with this engine to really learn about it. Learning how to operate safely was my biggest concern, and the trivia was left for another day that never really came.

This engine performed thrashing duty at the Jackson country fair for many years, all the way through the 1990's.

I really wish I had some photos of it, and me on it, but all I have is a few ribbons given to me and bill from the folks over at the 4-h booth.

The tractor lived near the grain elevator there in Cortland Indiana, as Bill was owner or some such of grain elevator there in Courtland.
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Polyhead, welcome to Smokestak. When was this? I lived in Seymour '99-2001 Don't remember this engine but there was plenty of old iron around. Good luck finding the 16 Kay Gee

This would have been around 1992 to 1997 or so. Bill passed away around 1998. My life was a bit of a blur around those years and keeping track of exactly what years it all went on is tough. Too much going on to care what day it was.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:27:37 AM
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Default Re: Looking for information on a 16 (??) hp Keck Gonnerman

Just giving this post a kick to the top one last time to see if anyone may have any information.
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Polyhead, I think the engine you are looking for is #1622 of Courtland In. I saw it a few years ago and the boiler was in very bad shape not in operating condition at all. I dont have my list handy but I will look it up for you and its last known whereabouts. If I recall it was a 18 hp. Wayne M.
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If I am right that engine sold on Ivan burns sale and maybe jeff detwiler has it but not sure it had two weld staybolts. Their was two keck sold and I don't remeber were the other went.
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Wayne, I found a #1622 in Bert Caswell's notes. He called it a 20 horse and it was shown in Boonville, MO in 1986. I don't have many of the 1600 Registers, let alone 1622.
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