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Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?


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Old 05-23-2008, 01:16:13 AM
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Default Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

A friend of mine got this old chassis that was probably one of those ex-WW1 trucks turned over to local highway departments, unfortunately the guy who moved it yanked it out wuth a winch rather than jack it up first and it snapped the spring hangers loose. I think for what he could sell it for he might better get it operational and build his own body, but he'd like to stay original as much as possible if he does that.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

If you're asking about the engine, what I have does show the Quads apparently all had Buda engines...
A 24 piston catalog lists Nash "Quad, 4018-2Ton" for 1920 with a Buda HU 41/4 bore, no stroke shown...
A 1930 McCord shows Nash Quad, 4cyl, "4017 2-21/2Ton chassis (no years) with a Buda HTU...
In the Buda section of the McCord it lists the HTU as 41/4 x 5, but doesn't list the HU...the HTU is lumped together with a couple other engines, but in the individual gasket list thereunder a couple are specified for the "HU".
Check the earlier thread herein re' Buda engine designations for comments; I believe some refer to open clutch and enclosed clutch types, but i didn't check back and've mislaid my notes.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

Thanks! I had read somewhere (Dykes possibly?) that it was a 4 cyl. Buda, they must be about as rare as hen's teeth. I was hoping they used something more universal like Waukesha or Continental or the "Liberty" truck engine. But I realize they are just as rare now. Years ago I was contacted by a guy out in MT with a Liberty motor and I kick myself for not trying to arrange shipping, but I have enough paperweights around now I guess. I have to tell myself I need to fix what I have before latching onto anymore projects.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

Actually, the Buda HT/HTU was a fairly popular truck/tractor engine--not as popular as some of the Cont's or Wauks--but not nearly as rare as some of the old inline Wisconsins, Hinkleys or Stearns, not to mention a Hoyt-Clagwell...
A wealth of info is certainly available from the Nash Car Club members, which also includes Nash truck owners (the club will show up on Google).
By now I assume you've found the Buda engine thread on the Old Lugs And Cleats etc forum here.
The old Quads were considered quite advanced in their time; a bunch of hits (and a lot of pix) come up under "Nash Quad", including a site that says they were used by several Allied militarys (militaries? in WWI---quite a find!!.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

Thanks! Yes I was reading the other threads, but around NY State I've never seen a 4 cyl. Buda in anything I can recall except maybe a cement mixer? I'm always looking for the big 4 cyl. Wisconsin/Waukesha/Continental engines or at least something that would work in a Linn. I knew a guy up in Champlain, NY, who told how his father was highway supt. when they got their first motorized road equipment, two surplus Nash Quads, he always laughed and told how the following year his father used them in a roadfill to a bridge abutment, to hold the bank. Never did tell me what bridge. About ten years ago a local old town barn had the creek wash out the bank in back, I was told there were Linn parts there but it was only a very rusty road grader frame and somekind of truck frame of ship channel but not Linn, "in hindsight" it could have been one of these surplus Quads, another thing in hindsight to kick myself for.
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Default Re: Nash Quad - 1920 NY Army Surplus

While looking up records of Linns in a neighboring county (Chenango) I found they were allotted 3 surplus army trucks, 1 "Heavy Aviation" 3 ton in Albany, a Pierce Arrow 2 ton and a Nash Quad 2 ton at Syracuse, NY, at the NY State Fairgrounds, in a letter from the NY Commissioner of Highways, and the Syracuse trucks had to be moved out ASAP as the fairgrounds needed the space. The Heavy Artillery truck was serial # 1114, NY license issued # 972-205, and cost $83.76 for shipping. The Pierce Arrow # 3630 license # 973-906 cost $68.74 and the Nash quad # 38991 license # 973-905 cost $78.62.
The total highway dept. fleet for Chenango County was then (DEc. 1, 1920) 1 steam shovel (Ball Engine Co. - by 1922 buying parts from Erie), 1 Buffalo Pitts roller, 1 Studebaker oiler, 1 sweeper, 1 Acme stone crusher and 50 ton bin, 1 Brockway dump truck, 4 Kelly Springfield 3-1/2 ton dump trucks, 1 heavy 3 ton aviation truck, 2 Pierce Arrow 2 ton with dump, 1 Pierce Arrow 3 ton no dump, 1 Nash Quad 2 ton no dump, 1 Linn tractor, 1 Huber gas tractor, 8 2 yard dump wagons, 3 Manney 4-wheel scrapers, 2 land plows and one pick plow. (Wood hydraulic dump bodies and hoists). This is the kind of fun stuff you can find by looking through old municipal records.
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Am having trouble finding any restored examples of these, we may just repower it with something else and add our own body, seems pretty spartan anyways. No idea who the guy is but he did a nice job on these clips.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

I got an email about this truck but can't reply because of a spam filter so will explain here, a scrapper hauled stuff out a few months ago so don't know if the Nash went for junk or not, I know the owner hadn't any luck trying to find parts or info., he was quite upset that it got the spring hangers broke when it was delivered to him and may have just gave up on it as he has been trying to clean out the excess before it all just gets stolen or vandalized anyways. I'm going up to see him next weekend and will check up on it.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

If he still has it let me know and I can put him in touch with Ken Khafta from Pierce CO who just restored a Nash Quad.
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Default Re: Nash Quad Buda 4 cyl.?

The best I can do is nab this photo from the Aumann Auction site (a sponsor here) which shows a Nash Quad we had in the shop for some tuning up......

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