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Watthour Meter Collectors?


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Old 11-01-2018, 07:56:47 AM
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Default Fort Wayne Electric Company Meter

Nice early FWEC Meter in really nice working condition..
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It is a USD$40,000.00 meter or more and that is why it got yanked off the bay and ended up in the SW USA..
Quelle surprise.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:48:34 AM
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Default 1888 Westinghouse-Shallenberger Ampere Hour Meter

Found this at Portland Show this summer and was quite pleased at the asking price and it was not a "DUPE"..
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Nice! That's actually beyond the end of the S/N range I have written down for the Shallenberger amp-hour, meaning this was one of the last of this model to roll off the production line, just as Westinghouse was getting under way with production of the Round Type model. (I have had other examples of overlapping S/Ns in my collection, such as a GE I-14 with S/N in the 13 million range and a GE I-16 with S/N in the 12 million range.)

The only hiccup I see is that the two wooden mounting bars seem to be absent from the unit?

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Hi, I am a collector of electro-mechanical watthour meters for 45 years. Have quiet a few meters connected up in our house measuring appliances. I like the Landis & Gyr Maximum Demand meters with the Meccano style gear-trains the best. A lot of meters in my collection are also the more modern ones but still with the disc loadwheel for driving the dials. At the moment designing my generator control panel with CT Ammeters and garden variety kWh meters. Look forward to hear from other meter collectors here as well.
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Old 02-08-2019, 08:13:48 AM
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The latest addition to my collection - a Ft. Wayne K4, the last US model with a cup-shaped rotor.

Seems someone found about 30 of these in a building slated for demolition, rescued them, and is currently selling them CHEAP on Ebay.

I took it apart for a cleaning (the paint stays in the can for once), and the cover and a slightly bent upper hanger are the only real issues.
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Two other meters I recently repaired using parts from a donor meter - a Sangamo JS and a Sangamo LC-2-S. Both are getting surprisingly hard to find anymore.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:07:54 PM
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Something I've always wondered... What does the K sub h on the nameplate mean?
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:32:52 PM
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Here is what I picked up a couple of weeks ago, for $10.
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Vanman, meter constant, if I'm correct.
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Something I've always wondered... What does the K sub h on the nameplate mean?
Kh is the meter constant

A Kh of 7.2 is very common on modern Class 200 electro mechanical meters.
it means 1 revolution of the disc equals 7.2 Watthours.

Older meters often have a Kh of 3.6 or 1.8.
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Default Re: Watthour Meter Collectors?

What kind of meter is on the classified ads now POTENTIAL?
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JeffK: That looks to be a very old Weston voltmeter.

Rodalco: Early US mechanical meters had a "base" Kh of 1/3 (with a few exceptions), based on the rating for a 5A 120V meter, but later, it was changed to 0.6, but now all 'smart' meters apparently have a 1.0 Kh regardless of rating.

Vanman: As Rodalco says, Kh is the watthour constant, the amount of energy measured per revolution of the disk. This is derived from the voltage / current ratings, # of stators, and I WANT to say the design speed and/or disk/register gear ratio figure in there as well. I've got that info around here somewhere, will have to dig for it.

Turtmaster: NICE find! I-16 meters above 10 amps aren't that common. You'll find the Kh marking on the disc near the timing mark.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bVOZ7vrMAQ

http://watthourmeters.proboards.com/
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Ran across this WH meter this past Saturday at a flea market. The owner wanted 40 bucks for it. I told him I really didn't collect these sort of meters but I would think about it. He said he would be back next month. I believe it had type F on it.
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radiodoc: Those are neat, and I think $40 is a fair price for one.

These were used as rentals by the electric company so people could see how much energy various appliances used. Sangamo and Duncan were the only 2 of the US 'big 4' meter companies to produce these.
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NDmeterman the one I saw was a Sangamo. I just may start collecting WH meters to a limited extent. The guy that had it runs the flea market so pretty sure he will be there the first of March. Thanks for your comments.
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OttoEngineMan - you lucky duck!

Those Gutmann A meters are VERY tough to find... yours is probably the 5th surviving example I can think of (the others I can think of being in the Itron historical collection, one supposedly in an utility collection, one in Texas, and one in a Columbus-area collection). I know of two major collectors that are still supposedly in the hunt for an example.
If you know of someone looking for one, I do have a duplicate in my museum to let go of...
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I actually picked up the Sangamo Type F meter I mentioned in post #55 when I returned to the flea market in March. The guy accepted 30 bucks for it. I haven't had time to check it out yet with this being tax season. I did remove the back and look inside and it was very clean.
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If you know of someone looking for one, I do have a duplicate in my museum to let go of...
I can think of a certain someone, but have not reached out to that person in years. And I know it would be impossible to get it from point A to point B just because.
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