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One that was recovered back in the day. This is a 10 ton Lombard that was lost in Long Lake, Maine in approximately 40 feet of water. They brought in a diver from the coast to help with the recovery. The first set of hooks the blacksmith at Churchill made bent straight when they tried to raise it so he had to make a stronger.





Full story here: http://www.maineforestandloggingmuse...ed-Lombard.pdf

Though a lot of machines no doubt were lost through ice these were expensive machines in their day and represented a considerable investment. I bet most were recovered - the part of the story that seems to be forgotten most often.

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Those old salvage photos are awesome! Just one of those things you don't see.


Thanks for all the stories and potential leads to follow so far folks! I need to win a lottery so I can quit working and go treasure hunting all day
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:26:15 AM
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Terry Thanks for an awesome set of photos. I can't imagine what it took to erect such a huge lifting gantree on ice over this tractor. Some one spent a lot of time and energy getting this unit to safety. Ed B
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A friend of mine who grew up in the 30s near Watertown SD told of a similar story that happened to them. Their father had a contract for suppling ice to the Rail Road for the reefer service. He had a huge operation and ice house on the waterfront there. They used a U Allis in the later years to push the snow off the ice. His brother was driving it and he would push the snow back into the water, on one day the brake band broke just as he got to the edge and it went into the river. They got a line or two attached to it and as above and raised it out a few days later. He always said it never ran quite right after that.
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MAN talk about COLD WATER!
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MAN talk about COLD WATER!
I would imagine the diver demanded a premium for that job.
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I can't swim, but I can operate a shovel.
I always heard that there was an 8-16 Mogul buried out by Hemans Mi in some field. The story goes that an old timer bought the tractor used and had a lot of trouble with it. One day it quit while plowing and he couldn't get it started. He was so mad that he dug a hole and shoved it in. Supposedly occurred around 1925-30.
I've been mad, but not mad enough to dig a Mogul-sized hole.
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There are all kinds of stories like that, sometimes you will hear about some getting started and running them off into rivers, I think I read one here on the stak about a Waterloo boy that was started without oil and ran until it quit.
Iv'e never been that destructive myself, especially if it was something that I could at least give away.
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I can't swim, but I can operate a shovel.
I always heard that there was an 8-16 Mogul buried out by Hemans Mi in some field. The story goes that an old timer bought the tractor used and had a lot of trouble with it. One day it quit while plowing and he couldn't get it started. He was so mad that he dug a hole and shoved it in. Supposedly occurred around 1925-30.
I've been mad, but not mad enough to dig a Mogul-sized hole.
It is odd that this story surfaced again. I heard about this tractor a few years back when I had my Mogul at the Caro Old Engine show. I tried to make the connections but nothing ever came of it. I thought it was a hoax.
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I would imagine the diver demanded a premium for that job.


Here is the diver himself...

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It is odd that this story surfaced again. I heard about this tractor a few years back when I had my Mogul at the Caro Old Engine show. I tried to make the connections but nothing ever came of it. I thought it was a hoax.
Well, if it is a hoax, it's a pretty old one started by the person who supposedly buried it. I've heard it from several different reliable people who are old enough to know. I also heard that the great-grandson supposedly knew where in the field it was located and was going to try and dig it back up, but he wasn't terribly ambitious with a shovel and never actually tried.
On a different note, I'd love to see that Mogul of yours at Caro this year.
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Well, if it is a hoax, it's a pretty old one started by the person who supposedly buried it. I've heard it from several different reliable people who are old enough to know. I also heard that the great-grandson supposedly knew where in the field it was located and was going to try and dig it back up, but he wasn't terribly ambitious with a shovel and never actually tried.
On a different note, I'd love to see that Mogul of yours at Caro this year.
I tried on several occasions to motivate the great-grandson with offers to help dig the tractor up. There were always reasons for not doing it. I still think it's a great story that needs to be proven to be true or not.
As far as the Caro Engine show goes, I'd really like to get my tractor back up there, but this year my younger daughter gets married that weekend. Going to Caro would probably not go over very well with the wife!
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Too bad about Caro, but you certainly don't want to miss the wedding.
Congratulations!
I didn't realize that you had talked to the great-grandson. That alleged tractor has always been something that somebody should look in to some day, but as far as I knew, nobody had tried. It's good that you did. I can't figure out why he wouldn't want to try and dig that tractor back up, unless he doesn't actually know where it's buried. Most of what I know is second hand, but I heard that the grandson wasn't involved much in old tractors, and wouldn't know a Mogul from a Fordson. Is that true? This is why I was inclined to believe the story in the first place.
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