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Silver King Chainsaw 1953 Pull Starter Stuck


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Old 08-03-2017, 09:38:38 AM
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Default Silver King Chainsaw 1953 Pull Starter Stuck

I'm trying to fix a 1953 chainsaw, and the pull start rope spool is frozen in place, and will not turn. The spring is not a rusted mass, and overall it looks pretty clean. Can someone recommend how to remove the spool? Attached is a picture of the spool and the housing.

I would also like to know if the shaft in the middle comes off with the spool, or is that the spindle it turns on?
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

The shaft is part of the outer housing. The spool should turn freely on that shaft. The main spring is under that spool and I would guess that is what's binding everything up. Put some penetrate between the shaft and spool.
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

To truly set the timing at a spot different from stock, you need a timing wheel. You can find and print one from the internet or buy a nice reusable one... however, before you get to that, have you checked other potential causes of a no-run situation? Are you getting fuel? Adequate air? How is compression? Is the plug a good spark plug? I would recommend rulling out all potential causes prior to adjusting timing as it should still run in the stock position.
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

Thanks, I tried that, still stuck solid. I notice the spindle appears to be steel, where the case and spool seem to be aluminum. Does the spindle screw out of the housing? I'm concerned of snapping it off, but it really won't budge otherwise.

---------- Post added at 04:21:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:19:36 PM ----------

Not at the point yet of trying to get it running, working on getting the pull starter unstuck.

The engine itself turns easy by hand, so I have hopes it will run when I get to that stage.
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

Juice, patience and maybe a little heat. Looks and sounds like the oil lite bushing galled between the string pull and the shaft.

On a part like that you have to think like the engineer who designed it to be manufactured as cheaply as possible. Either the stud unscrews or they cast the housing around string pull, shaft and loaded spring. Which do you think they did?

If you can't get a wrench on the stud, use a carbide die grinder on a cheap 12 point deep well socket of the appropriate size to smooth the bumps where you don't need them.

My '53 Logan had a pull string as an option but just has a wrap pulley and loose cord now. Makes starting it for the trick or treater's much more interesting.
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

The shaft is cast into the housing, it is not removable! There is no bushing between the rope pulley and shaft, it's just a smooth pulley surface. You need to turn the pulley. Use some good oil and turn back and forth until it breaks free. There is no "trick" to doing this that I know of. You might try 2 boards clamped over the top of the pulley for better leverage. I've never had one stuck that bad.
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

I wouldn't be afraid to use some heat on the aluminum...It won't take much...certainly not enough to change the temper in the spring....
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 pull starter stuck

ever get it apart?????
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Default Re: Silver King Chainsaw 1953 Pull Starter Stuck

Thanks for the advice, I was able to finally get it apart and cleaned up. My projects take a long time, sorry for the wait.
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