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Help Identifying a Dayton generator mated to a Wisconsin TFD


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Old 08-22-2019, 12:17:01 PM
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Howdy friends,
I rescued this genset last week mostly because I was super excited to get my hands on another THD.
The genset is working and I am going to restore this beauty as a potential standby for my home. Problem is there is no tag on the generator head. I have scoured this entire forum and the internet for days looking for at least a similar model. I have looked and looked again around the entire barrel and there is no tag other than the painted stuff on the outlet panel.

It has two (120) outlets and one (230) outlet
Exciter start button on the top.
Dayton 5000Kw. Cat No. 1W541
Based on searches, I believe this is 4 head, 1800RPM 60cycle unit. I tried the Grainger route and they didn't recognize the catalog number. Also have been looking for a winco model number but without a name plate on the front, I cant seem to nail this down. The back side of the outlet box has only 3 terminals. (Start wires and Slow charge wires) There are no volt gauges or other switches.
Any chance one of you fine folks recognize this little fella or knows where I can source some paperwork?
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Very nice unit. The THD'S, TFD'S and TJD'S are awesome engines built to last a long time. I have a few of each. See attached info. Though not exactly yours I believe on the same lines. The W coding in the Winco line I believe stands for Wisonsin, just as the BS stands for Briggs and Stratton.
The 16.8 HP of this engine means it would run at 1800 rpm to deliver the 5000 watts. There are 10kw Winco's and Daytons with the same engine but they run at 3600 rpm. Good luck with your restoration. It will be well worth your time.

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Thanks so much for this Colin. You had what I was looking for. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I love these engines so much. Heres the one on our hay baler. They sound incredible lugging with the just right muffler.
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Looks Great. Is that a TFD or THD?
Hand crank or electric start?
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The 24T Baler has a THD. Crank start only. Never once let us down during hay season. Of course my experience with these has been limited to summer use. It will be interesting to see if the genny starts as easy in the frigid new england cold months.
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...Problem is there is no tag on the generator head. I have scoured this entire forum and the internet for days looking for at least a similar model. I have looked and looked again around the entire barrel and there is no tag other than the painted stuff on the outlet panel....
...I tried the Grainger route and they didn't recognize the catalog number.
Dayton Electric Manufacturing is the 'house brand' for Grainger now, but it wasn't always. Prior to 1969, Grainger owned a large portion, but not all, of Dayton Electric Manufacturing... and while they were the largest sales path of Dayton, they were not the only path. Realize that while that part number looks like a Grainger part number, it's not because it's a Grainger number on a Dayton generator, it's Dayton numbers in a Grainger catalog.

When Granger purchased the REST of Dayton Electric in '69, they probably HAD documentation support for your generator, but I'm certain they only held onto it for a while... perhaps a decade or so, before relegating it to the landfill.
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Odd this should come up' I just saw this on craigs.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tl...964617783.html
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