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Old 06-07-2007, 08:21:24 AM
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Default Dick Watson's Auction Williamston, MI

I recieved a call last night informing me that Dick Watson's Estate Auction will be held on June 16, 2007. It is located on Sherwood Rd. North of Williamston, MI. I haven't seen an auction bill so do not know the items to be auctioned. Dick was an old time steam man and had a lot of steam related items. I was told there are going to be steam whistles, guages,antiques, and other items. He had 4 steam engines, 3 portables and a traction. The family member told me although not listed, there might be a steam engine also auctioned. There is a dispute over ownership of the engines that might be resolved by then??
If /when I recieve additional information, I'll try to pass it on to you readers.
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Who is doing the auction? Is there a website where we can obtain a copy of the auction bill?

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I've got a copy of the auction bill, but have not been able to get the file size down enough to send it.

Try www.sheridanauctionservice.com

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Send it to me and I will scale it for you.

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Could any of you Aultman-Taylor fans tell me... I see the crank disk has a star painted on it. Did A&T do that to their portable or traction engines? I know Cornelius Aultman put the star on some of his C. Aultman engines, specifically the C. Aultman Star. I'm not familiar with seeing them on the Aultman-Taylor line however. Am I just being nitpicky? I'm just wondering, is all. It is sure a cute little portable engine.
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Thanks Leo. Too bad they don't include any real pictures! I'd like to know which "steam engines" they are selling. We are still hoping that little 14 Port Huron can come to Wauseon.

I didn't know Dick had that many threshers! I wonder what happened to all of his catalogues, etc. I heard a lot was pitched

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I see there are two Case threshers listed on the bill. Does anyone know what size these machines are? I am still looking for a 20" Case thresher. Does anyone know of one or have one in their back yard? Thanks.

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Gaar,
Jim Tremble will be posting the printed list shortly, unfortunately they do not list sizes.

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Gary My 1878 catalog shows a Five point star on the portable crank disc, and then in the 1905 catalog it shows a star that has 11 points, looks more like a flower then a star. But you know catalog pictures are like the paint on an engine, just depends on who did the work and how much time they had.
Some late A&T engines had the engine number painted on the cylinder jacket and some didn't.
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Sorry this took a while......

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Gary My 1878 catalog shows a Five point star on the portable crank disc, and then in the 1905 catalog it shows a star that has 11 points, looks more like a flower then a star. But you know catalog pictures are like the paint on an engine, just depends on who did the work and how much time they had.
Some late A&T engines had the engine number painted on the cylinder jacket and some didn't.
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Jeff,
I didn't want to insinuate the restorer(s) didn't know what they were doing. I just wondered if this carried over from C. Aultman, as I'd just not seen, or more likely, paid attention to this practice. I wonder if a late engine, like the 25 A&T portable I posted on the A&T thread should have had such?

Thanks for helping this old guy learn something new, Jeff! That's what this place is all about for me.
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Gary I did not take it that way, And I am sure no one else did. Dick's engine is a very nice one. I have seen it run the shinlge mill at Mason MI. This engine is an 8 horse built in 1898 and is still running so you know how good of care it got. I was trying to say that different paint crews painting engines so no two looked alike. It is quite possible the star come from the C. Aultmans I do not know for sure. I am sure that it did not make the transition to the Girder type engines.
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Jim tremble sent me these PDF's of the above mentioned auction:
Please right click and "save target as"

andersonofrosholt.com/mypics/AUCTION.pdf

andersonofrosholt.com/mypics/AUCTION2.pdf
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Dick Watson has owned a 6HP Case portable since at least 1959. He used to use it to make steam to scald hogs when he butchered. It had no tag on it when he first got it some 50 odd years ago so way back then he wrote the Case Company with the boiler number, and they furnished him with the 1907 engine number, 18719--(boiler number 6831). Although it was built in 1907, it was first shipped in 1910 to Lansing, MI. Some years back, he replaced the smoke box with a longer one. If the new owner sees this, and wants a copy of the orig. Case factory ledger book page that includes this engine, I will furnish same upon request.
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Chuck,
Do you have the log book for all engines? If so I would love to have it for my engine. 31440...


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Chuck,
Do you have the ledger book for all engines? If so I would love to have it for my engine. 31440...


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Chuck,
Do you have the log book for all engines? If so I would love to have it for my engine. 31440...


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Shon Jacobsen
Shon,

I am very sorry to have misled you into believing that I have more than I do have. I only have copies of about 20 pages of the orig. books--which just happens to include the page that has Dick Watson's 1907, 6 HP portable, #18719. However I do happen to know a bit about your 1914, 50 Case--but only what you published in "THE" (The Heritage Eagle) Number 27 (Summer 1994), and "THE" number 50 (Summer 2000).
Sorry to have misled you
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Welll crap! Are those still available in the Case archives...???????

Not your fault chuck! I will get you the boiler number sometime this summer, since I now have the engine at home!

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The Case Steam Engine Record books are still with the Case Archives, which has been donated to the Racine Heritage Museum. Only a small part of the collection is accessible, and lucky the Record books are included in that portion. Over the years a number of the books have gotten separated from the collection so the records are not complete, but it's possible your engine maybe included. For more information you will want to contact the Racine Heritage Museum archives, www.spiritofinnovation.org
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