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How not to haul a Dozer


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Old 03-24-2019, 10:52:10 AM
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Default Re: How to not haul a dozer

When we first started hauling tractors and the like to the local shows, it was very common to see situations like that. Over the years, things have improved greatly. We now have vastly improved trailers available and more people have decent trucks to pull them, in general. Of course the DOT has also stepped up scrutiny of small rigs as well, now which one had the most impact on the change? I tend to think most of us have the good sense to improve our lot voluntarily when the better equipment became avillable.
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Yeah, I don't like that gooseneck conversion one bit.
I didn't look too closely at the truck, but guess it's a 3/4 ton. The trailer might actually be capable of hauling the 18,000 (Approx.) load but there is a reason they make goosenecks.
IF you are hauling this tractor for, let's say, to use as a lawnmower in your yard, or because it's going to be parked in your front yard as a Christmas ornament, you MIGHT be Not Regulated by the DOT.
But, if there are ANY monetary considerations, this guy should probably fall under the DOT Regulations. If that is a one-ton pickup, the whole thing might require a CDL. (More than 26,000 total).
If not, it depends on the state whether there is state or federal oversight regarding the proper operation.
For my money, I DO NOT like it when the load outweighs the power unit by this much.
I LOVE old tractors - this is my hobby - but by day I'm a DOT consultant. I always try to keep the two separate but occasionally a question comes up and I cannot hold myself back.
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Here's a similar example of how not to tow a bus...

I think there is some kind of machismo thing that goes on with pickups. A pickup is NOT a TRUCK, and should not be sent to do a TRUCK'S work! It's a PICKUP truck. Great for getting groceries, or a small load here or there. But NOT for the heavy hauling!
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^ Good luck stopping that load. I bet CHP had a $$$ fun day with him.
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If that bus is a pusher, look where most of the weight is! I think ford & dodge started this for example my dumptruck weighs in @ over 10k empty has air brakes and has no trouble hauling around a 9 ton load. ford put this same engine in their 3/4 ton pickup and used their own ECU to achieve even more power! Ok it will pull it but can it stop it? is it heavy enough to anchor the load? NO! same with dodge and their cummins, same motor in a snow plow with a heavy blade on the front, and a salt spreader in the rear loaded to the hilt.
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The guy actually made it. Must have been one of those days when you don't see any cops.

That bus is mid-engined. Around 3k lbs engine ~half way between the axles, behind the door that's next to the radiator. Plus another ~1k for the trans behind that. Note how the truck is squatting lol. Whole empty bus is ~11 ton. Plus the trailer lol. Notice how those trailer tires are squished.

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There is some real screwy going on in that bus pull. How the heck did he get the ramps folded up? You can't pull the bus that far forward....
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There is some real screwy going on in that bus pull. How the heck did he get the ramps folded up? You can't pull the bus that far forward....
If you zoom in it looks like the hinge pins for the ramps were took out.
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If you zoom in it looks like the hinge pins for the ramps were took out.
yep, they are strapped down. good eye!
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The bus tow wouldn't have an issue in Texas. I see oilfield companies hauling 4wheel drive backhoes all over the state using that same setup. They go thru the scale houses all the time. Don't know how they get by but they don't seem to be getting shut down?
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