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Old 07-26-2018, 03:45:42 AM
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Default Austral Otis Wilfley Concentrator?

Some pictures of a Wilfley table I'm uncovering at the moment from under years of accumulated detritus, appears that the vertical belt from the line shaft beyond the jackpump powers it, just when did Austral Otis manufacture this style of Wilfley?, also what make of pump?
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What breed is the engine Kim that is direct coupled in the last pic...?,.there's a nice looking curved spoke flywheel looking kind of incidental over at the bottom left hand of the picture .
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Default Re: Austral Otis Wilfley Concentrator ?

My guess is it woud be one of the engines in this thread being that a Wiffley Table is used in ore processing.

https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179178
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The flywheel looks quite slender in build but I'm guessing that's the Crossley having twin flywheels?A veritable gold mine!
I wonder what year Kim,..pre 1910 at least?,closer to 1900?
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that is direct coupled in the last pic...?,.there's a nice looking curved spoke flywheel looking kind of incidental over at the bottom left hand of the picture .
Hi Paul, not exactly direct coupled as it has a lever operated dog clutch that is between the carrier bearing on the plinth and the crank, the large pulley works the water pump the small on the Mort's stamper battery, engine was dispatched? September 1910 for agents Alex Cowan & Sons Sydney.
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That was actually a half decent guess on my first try!,..i surprised myself.
I'm studying the pics pretty hard,..but still not sure on size and fuel?I will have a crack at M size or a touch bigger?,..and wondering if some of the double letter models carried a high speed governor?
All in good time I suppose?The old pole shed looks like a real treasure trove!
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Purely a guess on the pump Kim,but if I was asking myself what Melbourne manufacturer the crown gears reminded me of I would be quick to say Macson.
It's quite a similar tapered oval section in the 6 spokes that are commonly seen on Macson machinery,pump gears and pulleys,lathe change gears etc.
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Hi Paul, could well be a McPherson's pump? a better pic of the pump, also the starting/idler engine for the main engine, a bit of work here to get the old gold battery up and running, also the old pole shed is well overdue for some maintenance and will get some new turpentine and brush box poles where needed and a few sheets of Orb roofing iron.
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The three bolt sidebolt windmill pump might be Southern Cross at a guess?
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Hi Paul, could well be a McPherson's pump? a better pic of the pump, also the starting/idler engine for the main engine.
Be easier to hand start the Crossley and use that to start the Sunshine.
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Hi Darryl, don't Sunshine two stroke engines start easily? the Crossley gas engine has 5' x 4'' flywheels so is a reasonable size and is converted for petrol so could be a little cranky to start? the badge on the Sunshine, Cameron, Sutherland and Seward I can not recollect seeing on another engine? also what was the 'Riverside' oil engine?
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I wondered about the nice fluted cast iron pillar seen in the first post...looked a bit out of place - its a roller door!

Otherwise, what a great shed and set-up of machinery!
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Hi Darryl, don't Sunshine two stroke engines start easily? the Crossley gas engine has 5' x 4'' flywheels so is a reasonable size and is converted for petrol so could be a little cranky to start? the badge on the Sunshine, Cameron, Sutherland and Seward I can not recollect seeing on another engine? also what was the 'Riverside' oil engine?
Very interesting ! Day's pumps and Riverside pumps were, i thought, two seperate pump companies but surely if Riverside was seperate then they'd use one of there own pumps on there Riverside engine (re badged ? ) adds.
I have a couple of Day's pumps but never seen a Riverside in this district.

PS. What the hell is a " concentrator" anyway ?

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PS. What the hell is a " concentrator" anyway ?
Wilfley concentrator is a oscillating table with ripples that concentrate, in this case gold slurry, into a richer concentrated form, separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak, a table working here in this video at about 2.50.


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Good video typac. Tangye has a bent crank , i wonder what happened to it.
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