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Old 04-29-2017, 06:17:50 AM
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Hi camute
Press the thanks button, it comes up on my screen I think it would be the same for everyone.
Typak thanks for the images,
I still think cotton wicks would siphon oil down to bearing, etc better then pipe cleaners.
I have tried both cotton laces work very well.
The advantage with pipe cleaners wicks would be holding predetermined shape.
Thanks again for your knowledge your views are always valued
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Hi camute
Look over to the right off peoples posts and you will see a yellow thumbs up with the word thanks ,just click on that and jobs done
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:22:14 AM
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That is right, any synthetic including synthetic felt is no good for a wick, for a quick test use a match or lighter and see what happens on a bit of the material to be used.
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:27:11 AM
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Hi wayne
That would be true synthetics do not work in some circumstances as well as natural fibres.
Look at felt seals- they seal oil and oil is held in the seal and becomes self lubricating where as synthetics tend to wear the component it is sealing, this is an example of a crankshaft in an automotive application
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:40:08 AM
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Hi I believe I read in a sundial manual that the big end oiler is to have 3 strands of 2 ply pure wool. That is what I then put in mine and it works well. Regards, Nathan
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Having given up smoking (a pipe) over 40 years ago, I am surprised they still make pipe cleaners at all. How often do you see a pipe smoker today?
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:17:07 AM
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Hi I believe I read in a sundial manual that the big end oiler is to have 3 strands of 2 ply pure wool.
Interesting Nathan to see the detail of 'pure wool' mentioned.
I'm not somebody who would care much if another enthusiast was to use braided cotton bootlace or pipe cleaner,as long as they were happy doing so and were getting a good result.I think I have used both in the past.
I got looking into wicks for lubricators in early engine applications a little while back.I discovered that a good number of engineering manufacturers were making a specification for the use of 'worsted' in particular,which is(was)distinctive style of pure wool.
There is plenty of information on the net about Worsted,the woollen yarn product itself,as well as a good amount of detail of its use in wick oilers of the day.
I put aside a good supply of used 3 ply worsted when wrecking a fairly large old electric motor a few years back.The armature bearings on the old motor had deep oilwells below the shaft.For a wick each oilwell had a large braided hollow tube of woollen thread,packed full inside with 40 or 50 three ply worsted strands.They make a nice wick and have found their way into a few little projects since.
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Hi I believe I read in a sundial manual that the big end oiler is to have 3 strands of 2 ply pure wool. That is what I then put in mine and it works well. Regards, Nathan
Hello Nathan.
That must of been where I got the idea. I remember the ladies at St. Vinnies had a look of 'for what?' when I answered their question of "What do you want pure wool for?". It was a job to sort out all the wools to find one without synthetics. My little gas soldering torch that's always in the car came in handy again.
Pure wool wasn't that easy to find at the Op shops. Vast majority had synthetics.

I wasn't real fussed on the pipe cleaner idea most people had. I was really worried about the steel binding/strengthening stem hitting the crank or pin or something and marking it. I made a strengthening stem out of brass wire and left an amount of wool at the bottom unsupported (about 3mm). I could feel when the brass hit the bottom and then lifted a smidge so it is only the wool wiping the crank or pin surface.

I seem to remember my old Pop's pipe cleaners and I thought they were like a softer cotton material and not the stiff material they seem to be today. I should have some in the shed somewhere. But where?

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Thanks for the info on the "thanks" button.
For some reason it wasn't coming up on the my first page of replys but seems to be there now lol
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Hi scotty
The early pipe cleaners were quality cotton , but like everything today manufacturing costs into play and nylon cleans smoking pipes well, but it won't siphon liquids .
Just an idea what about the ladies at rallies I see spinning wool, might be a worth a look
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Well I have heard to the north hemp fibre is used for most things, is this correct?
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Well I have heard to the north hemp fibre is used for most things, is this correct?
How far north?
North NSW? It's used as fuel for the pipe, not for cleaning of the said pipe in the NE of NSW.
We have a little Williams No1 herb cutter I found out the back of Mullumbimby in the mountains. It was about 100m away from 2 farm pumpers. I wonder what it was used for?

The nice ladies on the spinning wheels may wonder what the hell is going on if a lot of engine people start asking for spun pure wool Mr Sunshine.

Cheers Scott
PS: This thread reminds me of an older saying. If all else fails, read the book. Thanks Eric and Nathan for reminding me of all the information found in books. Information that may be specific to one engine, but could also help me to understand and help me with other machinery

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Ive got a set of oilers here if anyone interested
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