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Any Lister type N or R examples in Australia?


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Old 08-14-2019, 05:17:10 PM
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Default Any Lister type N or R examples in Australia?

Just wondering if anyone has seen an example of a Lister type R or type N at any rallies, museums or private collections, in Australia? I want to get a close look at one for a technical history I'm working on.

Ian Scales
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:10:13 PM
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Hello Ian
Until one is found, this may be of use. You may be able to get a guess at dimensions in the picture and compare.
By looking at the table you can see that the N and R are pretty much the same physical size.

Something else I've been wondering: When did Lister introduce the twin cylinder verticals?

Cheers Scott
PS: Sorry about the delay in the sheet picture. Been busy.

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There is a R and N in a private collection not far from me,
there are others around, long way from you though, cheers,
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Default Re: Any Lister type N or R examples in Australia?

Here is one I think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUqtsU-o3HY it is 9hp can't remember model. Also with regards to Scotty talking about twin cylinder listers here is a fairly rare example https://youtu.be/SrluHNFweBg?t=50s
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:50:16 AM
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Here is one I think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUqtsU-o3HY it is 9hp can't remember model. Also with regards to Scotty talking about twin cylinder listers here is a fairly rare example https://youtu.be/SrluHNFweBg?t=50s
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Is that a lister X?
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Something else I've been wondering: When did Lister introduce the twin cylinder verticals?
Hello all
Ian. Can you put those pictures of the engine you want identified up in this thread? I reckon the 3rd picture (if I remember right) gives an impression of a wide engine ie twin cylinder. It would be good to see what others think.
I had a bit of a look through some of my literature and Lister had twins before 1922 and they would look different to the twin Nathan placed up in the video.

Cheers Scott
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:15:36 AM
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Hi oldironoz,as it happens i have a r model and am going over to canberra to-morrow,if you like i can take some pics to night brian
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Here is a Lister N at the Taralga Rally in 2006
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This Lister R is regularly seen at the Campbelltown Steam Museum Rally.
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Hello all
For the benefit of those who missed Ian's initial thread about identifying some engines on Australian based boats I'll repost the pictures hoping someone may be able to identify the engine.
There isn't much to go on but the consensus is that the engine is a Lister. This was assumed because of the flywheel counterweight shown in one.
So here is a couple of the pictures Ian posted.....what is it?
The first pictures shows the flywheel counter weight.
There's some nice smiles on the ladies faces. One more so then the other. I had to look twice on where the point of the anchor was. Photo's can be so misleading

In the second picture I'm not sure if flywheels are sticking out each side of the tarp or not. It seems wide and that is why I'm thinking 2 cylinder. What do you think? Is it even Lister? What other engines, available to Australia, had flywheels like that?

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I don't think that the engine is a twin, looks too narrow in the cylinder area and if it is a twin they are sitting crooked to the flywheels.
No clues as to breed of engine from me.

Hey Scotty, are you suggesting that the lady closest to the anchor is the one with the biggest smile?
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Is that a lister X?
The Lister in the second video is a Lister X. I think it is 20 hp. It is a twin and very rare only a small handful in existence, there is one in the Transport Museum in Invercargill NZ.

I have an R but I am across the ditch.

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I don't think that the engine is a twin, looks too narrow in the cylinder area and if it is a twin they are sitting crooked to the flywheels.
No clues as to breed of engine from me.
Hello Cobba
Another thing I've been researching is the thing that's tilted under the tarp in the first picture. It's at the top of the engine so I've assumed (probably wrongly) that it's the muffler. Or is it a bucket on the muffler?
The tilt may be a clue. It seems the tilt is is in a forward orientation and not a sideways orientation. Yes/no?
Unless there's another elbow in the exhaust, the muffler on a single cylinder Lister should not tilt forward or aft. They should tilt sideways shouldn't they? But the muffler on a twin can tilt forward or aft. Sound feasible?

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