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'Common' Engines and Historical Significance


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Old 08-16-2019, 03:00:44 AM
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We have lot of Pommy gear in our collection from tractors to engines and even a mower or two. The most engines of a single brand is Buzacott so I guess we are the "house of Buzacott". Yep the engine we have are as common as bum holes, everyone has them, but we are happy and proud to show and play with them. Same as the tractors, nothing rare about a grey Fergie but I dare you to say anything negative about it to it's owner Dee, you won't last long in that debate.
I guess at the end of the day all engines are 'special' and deserve to be preserved and shown when ever possible. If you have something that is not as common or even very rare it too deserves to be displayed with all others. I for one enjoy looking at them all and watching and listening to them tick over.
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Cobber, the grey fergie is a good example for this topic. Quite common, but have a good name and are very well respected for all the work they did in helping developing Australia.- Cheers -Neil.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:12:09 AM
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Default Re: 'Common' Engines and Historical Significance

you want what? !! ???

Definitions.

sorry i cant help.
... why do they rewrite the dictionary continuously...
'English as she is goodly spoken'
(readers digest tourist quote of language school sign, from 40 years ago)

from Paul:
If turning again to the original quote Scotty,I think original context can also help to firm up the intended meaning?

quite so, thanks Paul.

a feature not restricted to English, is that language is rarely 'fixed'.
it commonly evolves not only into something different,
but also in different directions, into dialects.
hey, just like machinery!

if you want a well defined language,
we need to get serious about Esperanto;
invented both to rid us of the problems of changing language,
and the problems of translation,
and yet it also has an organised system of growth and development.

language and culture are often intertwined,
try this for another Howard Rotary Hoe example,
all perfectly correct, in its context,
but not the way we speak goodly today.
culture, cultural, cultivation.
we have indeed had a cultural revolution!

A bit sad really, because good communication is vital to a community,
and good definitions and proper use of words is an important part of that.
the less changes there are within a language,
the more efficient it is via less need to learn about the changes to properly understand historical documents.
cheers Rod.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:51:31 AM
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Another side to this is there are some very rare engines out there and people walk past and could not care
I have one a Southern Cross ESB only 21 made a number of the were returned to the factor to be scraped, 2 have been found and both have parts missing the chap with the other one is going to borrow mine to copy parts and make some for me and just maybe we might have 2 going
Ian
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Old 08-17-2019, 06:44:26 PM
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I think at times the build date of a machine can seperate a single unit out away from its mates,where it might be considered to be something "historically significant" as compared to some of it's later produced mates being considered just "old".
I have an individual unit,an engine,considered say "reasonably scarce" from a fairly common and well known brand/maker.
Because of it's particular style I place it in among the group of IC engines that was the company's very first produced.
Mine has a 1903 shipping date.It wasn't until I took a close look at a similar unit that was built 10 years earlier that I realised that it was more something of a "historic" machine,while mine might be best considered an "old" engine when compared.

I tend to think 10 years can be a long time when moving backwards into the decades prior to 1900,where the development of IC machines was an emerging technology?
I'm hardly concerned if somebody I barely know finds that view to be faulty,or perhaps lacking in the right relevance,because my reasoning is purely subjective.
While I like my own opinion or view on some of these matters,others are not obliged to agree.
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