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Old 09-12-2019, 07:45:41 PM
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I stumbled accross this odd display in a town park today. The locals retrieved it from a nearby mine many years ago.
Kind of a neat setup! I'll post a few more pictures later tonight...



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Old 09-12-2019, 07:56:13 PM
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Thermoil?
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:57:33 PM
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Looks like they need to get that thing out of the WEATHER!

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Old 09-12-2019, 09:32:59 PM
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:48:00 PM
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Probably a Canadian copy of a Thermoil, looks like it's had a hard life!!
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:07:37 PM
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Probably a Canadian copy of a Thermoil, looks like it's had a hard life!!
Yes, it is the Canadian version of the Thermoil. The majority of them were sold as Renfrew, Brantford, or Hoag engines. The primary difference was the tag. That one looks like the 9hp. Having been severely abused seems to be a common attribute of the Canadian Hvids; a lot of them were "ridden hard and put away wet".

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The gearing on the winch looks to be in good shape still same goes for the drive chain.Thanks for the pictures Mr Faris
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Nice find,
A little oil / fresh fuel and you could be hoisting!. Kidding aside its still a good find as the thermoil style engines don't seem to turn up often. Maybe they were more popular in places where it stays warmer in winter?.
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Maybe they where more popular in places where it stays warmer in winter?.
Nathan.
Hard to say, it currently feels like late November where this one's located... In all seriousness this is the only native HVID I've ever seen in BC, so you could be right.

Honestly it was a really suprising find, mostly because of it's general location, 200 miles from anywhere of note in BC and 120 miles from Alaska. And I don't mean an area of Alaska where engines have been found before; I'm talking about middle of nowhere Alaska where there's more grizzly bears than men.
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Back in the day it probably worked just fine wonder if they dropped men down into the mine with it ? Gives me the willies thinking about going down into the mine shaft putting a lot of faith that the chain or something would not brake the brake would hold long as not over weight.The reason i mentioned of my fear when i worked in the Shoemaker Mine Benwood Wv modern equipment we were coming up after day shift 30 men on the elevator that son of a gun stopped all most to the top of the shaft of 375 feet and something went wrong and we was falling back into the mine the Formen kept hitting the Red emergency stop button and finnaly up top we could hear the braking system working we slowed down and stopped i said HOT DAMN you talk about black dirty coal miners when we stepped out of the elevator we were all white some were throwing up over the walk way hand rail going into shower house.
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Elevator drops are a b---h! I did a 5 floor drop before the emergency braking system kicked in. That consisted of 2 dogs that were supposed to engage stops in the travel rails. When the motor started again, the elevator went up 1/2 a floor and jammed. The doors openned, even though the elevator car was between floors, and I crawled out. The nurse at the counter said "this is a restricted floor, you dont belong here" My reply was "If you think I am getting back on that thing, youre f-----g crazy! (floor was for the insane).

The elevator service man said I was lucky I wasnt killed. The emergency stop dogs were frozen by gelled grease. When they finally rattled loose, they peeled 4 feet of steel, 1/2" thick off the rails. tyhats what jammed the car between floors. The band brake that was supposed to stop the car had broken in 1/2. The springs at the bottom of the shaft had rusted to dust, and their mountings were just spikes that would have speared me if the car had traveled just a foot farther. As it was, the car hit them lightly before starting up again. Not a fun trip, seeing the floor go out from under you as the car drops! The accident was atributed to poor maintanance - the elevator had not been serviced in over 10 years!
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Andrew, you have the best stories! I simply must meet you one day. This one is a great illustration of how every single person lives by faith; whether they consider themselves religious, or even if they are anti-religious.

I don't know of any person who empirically verifies the condition of an elevator before they get on it. They are literally taking a step of faith when they get on.
And even if they check the safety inspection certificate on the wall, they are taking it by faith that the certificate is legitimate and not a forgery. And furthermore, that the inspector who filled out the certificate was both competent and honest.

My point is that even people who think they are scientific, are operating by faith just like everyone else.

Thanks for all your great stories my friend. I always enjoy them!
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