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coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag


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Old 09-29-2006, 04:51:05 PM
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Question coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

I have p/u my late father-in-law's 54400 which he said he bought new a few years ago. I was hoping to find a schmatic to wire the 3 socket recptacle to a 4 socket to the newer 4 prong plug. I'm also in need of the throttle adjustment to bring down the rpm's on the Brigg & Stratton 8hp engine. It is reading 140 on the 120 side and 270 on the 240 side. Any ideas to get them down?
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:26:36 PM
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

This generator probably has inherent voltage regulation which means the voltage is proportional to the speed. Slow the throttle down some and see if the voltage drops to ~120/240 volts. The frequency (hertz) is also proportional to the speed, and should be very near 60 hz. You will need a multimeter that measures hertz or a tachometer to set the speed.
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can yo se the same tach used on a 4, 6 & 8cylinder car?
Now all I have to do is find the trottle on the engine.I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Thanks again
still need info on wiring 3 wire recptacle for a 4 prong plg going to circit box for emergency backp.
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

this is typical and may not be specific to yours
get competent help please
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

PS you need to add a 4 prong socket to the generator or use the 110 volt outlets one for each side of the 220. the three wire has no neutral
jumping the neutral to ground as suggested in coleman instruction books is not a good idea where the neutral is bonded to ground elsewhere. this can present dangerous situations if there is a loose neutral.
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:42:27 AM
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

Attached (I hope) is a schematic of the Coleman 55400 generator, and a pinout of the internal plug used to connect the windings to the removable bell housing. Notice that the neutral is bonded to ground internally. You may want to break this bond when wiring a 4 prong socket. To remove the bell housing, first remove the small plastic plate on the end between the sockets, then remove the brushes. You can now remove the four large bolts holdong the housing to the generator frame.
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

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can yo se the same tach used on a 4, 6 & 8cylinder car?
Now all I have to do is find the trottle on the engine.I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Thanks again
still need info on wiring 3 wire recptacle for a 4 prong plg going to circit box for emergency backp.
No you can not use a automotive tach as this engine in a magneto ignition. If you look around you can find a meter, I bought one at Radio Shack that can measure frequency. You can use this to set output at 60 hertz which on this generator is most likey 3600 RPM engine speed. Also the voltages might not be that far off if you were measureing them without a load. I have 2 LP fuel 5000 watt Winco unit that measure 139 volts/268 volt when they are not loaded and the engine is running at 3600 RPM/60 Hertz.

Kent
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

an old electric clock with a sweep second hand when plugged in to a generator will, when compared to your wrist watch, allow you to set the speed
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Wink Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

want to thank yo all for yor inpts. I will be ptting them to se tomorrow night when my electrician shows p to finish the job. He did all the hose wiring 2 weeks ago an cold not get the wiring diagram from Coleman(they wanted the sale of he end bell $134.23)I coldn't wait for them to make one since it is October in the North East here!
Thanks again to all of yo and keep p the good relations that yo have shown me in yor responses.
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

Thanks for that hand written schematic. I took apart my Agtronic 54 to replace the 240 VAC plug and was called away. When I returned I realized I didn't mark the wires and wasn't sure. Thanks again.

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I took apart my Agtronic 54 to replace the 240 VAC plug and was called away. When I returned I realized I didn't mark the wires and wasn't sure. Thanks for your posting the schematic. The 110 VAC split feed was not conventionally wired and didn't look right. Your drawing posted really gave me confidence.
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Default Re: coleman(ag tronic)powermate series 54 wiring diag

Welcome to the Stak, Chuck. It's nice to see that you were able to find useful information from an old thread to help you out with your generator. You will find the Smokstak has a lot of useful information, and folks that are willing to help.
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