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Old 03-25-2018, 11:59:54 PM
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Upright engine. Flywheel serial no. 18845. Flywheel spareparts no. K106. Can u please identify this engine. Pulling my hair out down under
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Pictures of the engine please.
It is hard to tell what it is without being able to see it.

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Old 03-27-2018, 05:56:25 AM
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Thank you for your reply. I will work on photos (this technology is very new to me)
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Old 03-27-2018, 09:10:08 AM
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Brian,
If you didn't already, take a look at the help threads.
To get to them:
Look at the links just under the Smokstak banner.
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Click on Help.
There will be a thread called somthing like : Posting Messages and Pictures .
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:15:27 AM
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Not sure if I succeeded in sending photos. Having real trouble this end. Would it be possible to have yr email address as I have 2 more photos from different views that I would like to send (I am a little more knowledgeable with emails). With thanks
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:21:11 AM
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I succeeded sending extra photos. Learning as I go. Thanking you in anticipation
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Brian,
Thanks for posting the photos.
I wasn't expecting a vertical.
I'm not familiar with Maytag verticals.
Hopefully, someone who is more familiar with these engines will notice this thread.

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Old 03-30-2018, 05:48:22 PM
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Thank you for your help.
Could u tell me if i am in the correct site for this query.
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Brian,
Yes, you are in the right place.
Someone who knows what engine you have should stop by soon.

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Default Re: Elgin? Maytag?

BY the looks of the base and crankcase that looks like and Elgin for sure. Do you have the carb?
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No I don’t. I only have short motor with no ignition system or carburettor. That being my problem working in dark as to whether these parts are available or would other model parts fit.
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Default Re: Elgin? Maytag?

Here's a video of my fathers Elgin. Yours doesn't seem to have the deflooder valve on the side like this one. Base looks the same, top plate/crankcase are a little different. Possibly different year/design. This is an unusual carb to try and find.

https://youtu.be/9cTI7Rdms_4
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Elgin never had serial numbers on they're flywheels. And no casting #'s on them either to my knowledge. The 'K' number on the flywheel is a catalog washing machine part number. I have never seen or heard of one with a 'K' number though. The early Maytag uprights used a lot of the same parts as the Elgins for the first half year of production or so. My assessment is its a very early Maytag. See you have the crank for it, super rare. Kevin
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Brian,

This is what we call a half breed Elgin/Maytag. The flywheel for Maytag were thing like the one you have in the pic. You can use a Maytag E Carb to get the fuel part fixed now as for the commcator or ignition part I have seen them made for the 1/2 hp but not for the 1hp. It it a nice looking engine hope you can find the part down there.

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Here is some photos of my Half Breed

31645 SN
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Hello David, have finally achieved some success in 1hp upright maytag rebuild. Obtained from Flywheel supplies manual, E carby, buzz coil & wiring, spark plug. Managed to have commutator made in Australia. Ashley from Flywheel informs me that 1 hp and 1/2 hp governors are different in size. So my dilemma is I am unable to find a 1 hp governor. I am wondering that as the governor in your photos seems to be in tact and if they are the same measurements as shown below, would it be at all possible to obtain professional blueprint diagram at entirely my cost.
I know I am clutching at straws but your contact seems to be my only hope.
Serial no. that may help to identify missing parts
Crankshaft bearing S103 is 1 7/8” to take commutator 2 3/8” outside diameter.
Missing governor arm S114
Governor contact finger S115
Hoping all is clear and eagerly await your reply.
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My first thoughts were it being a Maytag then Elgin came into the discussion. Glad you are making progress and hope you can get the govenor sorted out soon. I do like these little engines and they sound so sweet so we look forward to your progress.
I'm guessing they are spark governed for the hit n miss operation.
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Wipe spark timing, as the engine accelerates, the governor arm lifts off the commutater to break the ignition circuit. The governor actually completes the ground circuit to make the buzz coil work. Battery to coil, coil to timer block to battery, high tension to plug.

The maytag uprights were made from about 1913 to in the area of 1923 as near as I can figure.
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My mistake. They were part numbers I sent for missing parts.

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Thanks to new onlookers.
Just to update- upright 1 hp maytag serial no. 18845.
Missing a governor.
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Hi David, still awaiting your reply to my enquiry. Hope all is ok your end.
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