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What is it? Early Jensen Model 20?


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Old 12-18-2018, 07:49:54 PM
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What is it? Early Jensen Model 20? No indication on the base of ever any identification. Thanks.
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Old 12-18-2018, 08:58:25 PM
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You've done well! Early Jensen 10 worth $1200 or so
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:35:09 PM
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You've done well! Early Jensen 10 worth $1200 or so
Thanks. Approximate age?
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:54:58 PM
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Late '30's... 1938-39

Should have the Jensen decal on base (no model number), but base looks to have been sanded or very worn.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:59:15 AM
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Default Re: What is it? Early Jensen Model 20?

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Hi Len, Nick is right. It is a late 1930's Jensen #10.
They were made like that late 30's up through the start of WW II.
I don't see a power cord. It would have been cloth and by the looks
of things someone replaced the heater at some point or removed it
and put the large screws in the holes.

The correct chimney was 3/4" OD brass tubing 22/1000 wall thickness, small flare at top
and painted black. You can get a newer aluminum chimney from Jensen and paint it black.
It will be 3/8" too short but still look correct.

Wishing you and Ruth a great Christmas and a happy and healthy new year.

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Old 12-22-2018, 11:55:46 AM
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Hi Len, Nick is right. It is a late 1930's Jensen #10.
...I don't see a power cord. It would have been cloth and by the looks
of things someone replaced the heater at some point or removed it
and put the large screws in the holes.
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There is no power cord at present. A hole in the back where the cord would have come out. I was not sure if it would use open pan in base with fuel.
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Default Re: What is it? Early Jensen Model 20?

Nice find, Len!

If the heater is missing, a new blanket heater can be bought from Jensen.
The correct cord for that engine would be a Belden style cord like the one in the photo.
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It is a nice engine but upon closer inspection, it needs a lot of work.

Sight glass missing.
Lower sight glass mount knocked inside or out of the boiler.
Issue with the back of the cylinder.
Issue with the generator
No power cord equals non-functioning heater.
Could be damage to the bottom of the boiler or does not have a heater at all.

If it was the large 4 bolt cylinder I would agree on 1200 but even being one with lamp post on board I would put the value closer to 600 - 700 as is.

Fix all the problems and you have a 1200 - 1700 engine.
Just my two cents.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:32:40 AM
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I still stick with my $1200 with all the faults you listed... And if it was to go on ebay, I bet you'd bid it up to that price and retract your bids if you went over the high bidder...
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Yes, it does need some help as others have stated. I have decided to sell this engine, if someone is interested contact me.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:36:07 PM
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Hi Len, I have sent you a message,
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No.

But Yes I have retracted a few bids recently but I have my reasons. It did not negatively affect any of the auctions as the sales price exceeded my high bid anyway.

I'm sure some people are sore I took the #25 and #50 down ending the auctions early but I also had my reasons.
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Are some of those reasons related to the number 51..?
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But Yes I have retracted a few bids recently but I have my reasons. It did not negatively affect any of the auctions as the sales price exceeded my high bid anyway.
I have found four recent Jensen auctions that you retracted bids on and you have 14 retractions in the past 6 months, surprised ebay still keeps the account active.

Wasn't going to post this, but you stated that you have not affected any outcomes... Had you not bid on this engine, the winning bidder wold have only had to pay one bid above $310, not the $465 that you bid him up to and retracted when you went over him

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/20...p2047675.l2565

Edit: your high bid, retracted amount of $470, DID exceed the winning bid.

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Old 01-09-2019, 08:33:50 PM
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Default Re: What is it? Early Jensen Model 20?

And from the seller of the current transition 35...
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It would make sense to me that if someone retracts a bid to no longer be in a winning position, they should retract all of their bids on that item.
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Yep, Bill won the 20.
I retracted my bid to buy another. I would still pay $465 for it.

I was the first person to bid on the transition 35 and was working a deal to buy it. When that fell through I canceled all but one bid.

Yep Gil, I sold the 25 and 50 to raise funds for the 51.
The 50 I canceled to sell to a friend.
I promised an option on the 25 to a few collectors.
I got an offer that met my reserve so I sold it at that time.

I've been buying and selling on Ebay since it began years ago.
I did not want to go over $500 with shipping for the 20 so that's why I retracted my last bid.

Nick, I think you may be reading a lot more into this than was my intent.
Obviously, something has offended you and I'm not sure what it was.

Regardless my intentions are true and honest. I will buy any engine for any price I have entered and retracted. Sometimes things can change depending on what comes available at the time.
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Wasn't going to post this, but you stated that you have not affected any outcomes... Had you not bid on this engine, the winning bidder wold have only had to pay one bid above $310, not the $465 that you bid him up to and retracted when you went over him

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/20...p2047675.l2565

Edit: your high bid, retracted amount of $470, DID exceed the winning bid.
Help! My thread has been hijacked! Oh, well.

Is this not the definition of a shill bidder?
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Nick, Also the transition 35 was not out of my price range. I actually was bored. A fellow collector bid on it and I did not want to compete with him so I retracted my bids.
I was the very first person to speak with him and I offered him 300 to see where he was at. It said make offer. I asked him to give me a price and he declined. I think he is reading much more into it because I actually told him it was worth much more. I'm the one that told him it was a transition 35 and would go for 1500 - 2000. SO ask him about that conversation. What a jerk

---------- Post added at 09:49:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38:40 PM ----------

This is just one of the actual message I sent Cody on the 35 just so you know.

earlybirdauctionscody

Crazy thing is we run auctions on Facebook sold it for $300 on there early bird Auctions is the page. Guy returned it because the site glass was broken
3365165o7o:

I was hoping to add this to my collection but the price is going to get too much for me. I bid $600 but just decided to cancel. This is what you have. I have no idea what it will sell for.

http://www.jensensteamengines.com/museum.htm

Model #35
Transition Version 1937

The model # 35 has truly proven to be full of surprises. First we learned of the model 35 Cast Iron based version which no one recalled. Then we get an email from an owner describing "the same engine...only a little different". The photo above depicts that rarest of Jensen engines, called a "Transition Piece". What this indicates is that the model is an example of a shift point in the design evolution Tom Sr. was so well known for. The boiler and engine are indeed exactly same as the "Forgotten model 35" except that it is now nickled. The stack has migrated from atop the relief valve and the cast iron base has evloved to the solid wood both of which would be used on all future models. A very rare and very collectible "moment in time" Jensen #35 version.

---------- Post added at 09:55:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:49:04 PM ----------

Nick,
I am curious about one thing though.

How do you know so much about me and what I've bought and not bought? Bid and not bid on ebay.

I do not even know you. To my knowledge, we have never met or talked on the phone.

Man that just seems a bit weird to me.

If you want to know something just call me and I'll tell you.

---------- Post added at 10:03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55:48 PM ----------

Len
Sorry to hijack your thread.

I'll cease.
Take care.

---------- Post added at 10:12:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:03:39 PM ----------

One last thing.... The 20 that's currently on ebay. I have also offered him $500 including shipping for that one.

I'm not a Shill Bidder. Obviously, you may believe that is untrue so message him and ask him what I've offered. He will tell you. $400, $450, Then $500 including shipping.

At this point I don't want it.
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Back to the original Jensen Model 10. I have now listed it at:

https://www.enginads.com/classifieds...product=155441
And
https://www.discoverlivesteam.com/di...lman/index.htm

Jensen Model Early Riveted Boiler Model 10. Original. Believe late 1930s. One of the earliest Model 10 Riveted Boiler, Engine generator sets made by Tom Jensen. Needs some repair. Missing heater and cord, Water sightglass. Incorrect smokestack. On original board. Engine generator turns freely as do the valve and whistle.
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