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Old 09-02-2019, 10:10:51 AM
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I'm the second owner of this rare 1917 engine on its original cart. I believe it's one of six or so known to still exist. Have shown it once and ran it quite a bit but have not done a "complete restoration" on it. Thinking about selling it but am not sure if I should fully restore and paint it up first. What do you think?
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:35:27 AM
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If it has never been restored I would leave it alone.
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:08:08 PM
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Im with Turbo on this one.
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:26:01 PM
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Default Re: Gallowa 12hp.

From strictly a monetary point of view.. it'll be worth LESS money if you paint it. From a historical point of view with serious collector's... it'll be worth LESS money if you paint it. Somewhere between these two there are people who pay more for a prettied up engine.
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:46:46 PM
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Default Re: Gallowa 12hp.

Like the others have said, in today's world painting an original engine will greatly reduce its value. Where as stripping the paint off a restored engine and unrestoring it increases value.

There are collectors who like a nice painted up engine however they seem to be a minority, especially when it comes to unique, rare, or high dollar engines.
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Same notion here. It's only original once.
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The consensus seems to be to let her look as she does. I brought her out of the sage brush after decades of "western sun" exposure so she's got a nice look. I had to find a replacement mag because someone commandeered the original and I had to have a new tank built. Other than a few other little things, she was pretty easy and fun to get running.
Thanks for the advice, everyone.
I'll probably list her sometime in the near future.
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Can we see some Pictures of your prize!
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:00:04 PM
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Default Re: Gallowa 12hp.

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Like the others have said, in today's world painting an original engine will greatly reduce its value. Where as stripping the paint off a restored engine and unrestoring it increases value.

There are collectors who like a nice painted up engine however they seem to be a minority, especially when it comes to unique, rare, or high dollar engines.
Times sure change. Some years ago every other question on this board was what color to use to paint an engine to it's original color. There were many debates about the exact shade of red, green etc.
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Default Re: Gallowa 12hp.

This is the engine before the tinkering and running.
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Looks perfect just the way it is.
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I took these pics the other day.
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Nice Galloway!
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Default Re: Gallowa 12hp.

Don't paint it unless you want less money for it then how it is right now. BTW what do you want for it ?
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Mike O.
I'm hoping around $9k but I'm willing to dicker a bit.
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I think a perfectly restored engine will bring as much money as a rusty, greasy, in its work clothes engine.. after these engines were done being used and set outside their work clothes deteriorated real fast.. I don’t mean use cheap paint and apply it with your old ladies panties.. fill in pits so you can do an excellent job of pinstriping.. no matter what people say a nicely restored engine will bring more people by than a work clothes engine. Most of the people with work clothes engines have paths through their houses and too lazy to do a real restoration..
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Dave
I just started to repaint that old greasy GADE you left at the show grounds last year. I found a big red thong to apply some old lacquer to it.
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Old 09-06-2019, 03:11:46 PM
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I told Fezzete to hide them but I guess we’ve been caught .. Sorry , but continue painting I’ll be there Thursday as early as I can.. Nice to see engines running something instead of watching flywheels spin
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............... Most of the people with work clothes engines have paths through their houses and too lazy to do a real restoration..
Painting with a pretty broad brush there Dave. I'm certainly glad I don't subscribe to your line of thinking with my Olds.

Beneath the decades of dirt from indoor storage was nice original paint. In my opinion, original out scores restored. It's only original once.
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Most of the people with work clothes engines have paths through their houses and too lazy to do a real restoration..
I take offense at that, and am sure that there are a $h!t pot full of people on this board that would, too! Takes a Helluva lot of work when you go thru and mechanically restore some piece of junk drug out of the woods, whether you paint it or not.

I am seeing that the trend lately is for nice old originals, and see that really old or really rare original ones do bring thousands more than a repainted one in auctions!

I have some old original engines, and some that I have repainted. Where do I draw the line? If it's nice and original, that's the way I leave it. If it's a total rust bucket without a lick of original (or extremely old repaint with a nice patina on it), it's going to get restored real pretty.

And NO, I don't have trails cut thru my house to walk thru!

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