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Default Tangye Hot Tube Operation

Hi folks, I have bought / buying a 1904 4hp Tangye in bits.

I have the intake / hot tube assembly (yet to pick up the engine).

Is anyone here intimately familiar with these and could describe what the various parts of the assembly do? I have the intake tower and valve off, but there are other bits I don't understand the function of.
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There is a screw on "canister" on the left. I don't know what's in it, or what it does.
There is a bolt visible behind that. It seems to be a random snapped - off bolt with a maybe - original round nut. This looks like it could block off a small bypass passage next to the main passage.
It looks like the fuel comes in with the air via an orifice in the intake valve seat.
The hot tube sticking out the bottom of the main assembly stops flush on the inside. Is that right?

Perhaps I will see another running at Kingaroy, shortly.

Cheers, Jarrod.
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Default Re: Tangye hot tube operation.

Hi Jarrod,

This is off the top of my head so it may not be 100% correct. The side canister contains another hot tube, under the first cover will most likely be asbestos insulation so take proper precautions there. That’s insulating a secondary chamber that houses the second hot tube, the bolt is the valve to regulate how much combustion gas can heat the outside of the tube that is used to maintain an ignition point once the engine has warmed up and the blow lamp had been shut off.

The hot tube is hollow and stops flush inside as you suspected, it will most likely be full of carbon and crud. I used a cheap masonry bit to clean it as it will destroy a normal bit.

The intake valve has a row of holes around the seat that allows the fuel to flow when it opens so ensure they are clean. There should be a spacer under the intake valve spring, it limits the valve travel to ensure fast airflow over the valve seat ( narrow gap, fast air, Venturi effect, atomises the fuel etc).

That’s what I can remember from when I restored my 10hp.

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Default Re: Tangye hot tube operation.

Thanks Andrew. That explains it. It looks like I will have to heat the side canister to get it to unscrew.
I will have a closer look at the primary hot tube regarding being full off carbon.
My intake valve does have the spacer you describe, but only one fuel orifice. I did read about that bit as you describe.

Thanks again, Jarrod.
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Default Re: Tangye hot tube operation.

Hello Jarrod.
So....where's some other pictures? You can't tease with bits and pieces pictures
Do you still need that governor bit we talked about earlier this year? It's been in my little green toolbox just waiting. I'm going to Kingaroy also so remind me if you still need it.

Cheers Scott
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Jarrod, as per Andrew's post, contact me for a more details, Kerry Morris, Tangye Registrar
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Kerry; thanks for that. I will be in touch shortly. Do you have 4905 already on the register?

Scotty; yes I do still need governor bits. I don't remember exactly which bits I asked for, but mainly the pushrod. I have a cover, although it's the wrong one. (it's embossed "BALTIC SIMPLEX", but it's on an International - badged Ronnie).

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Not much to look at. Looks like I will be picking it up at Kingaroy.
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Kerry; thanks for that. I will be in touch shortly. Do you have 4905 already on the register?.
Yes Mate, have it as a 5hp, need to check flywheel Dia and Bore to confirm if its 4 or 5hp
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I'm told it's 36", but don't know if that's approximate, or measured. Don't know what the bore is.

I'll have all the vital stats in a couple of weeks.

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Hi Jarrod/Kerry

The engine Bore is 5 5/8” , stoke around 10”
Flywheel is around 36 1/4” x 4” wide - flywheel has a small counterweight cast into the rim

I felt it was time to pass this engine on and am sure Jarrod has the skills and ability to see this project completed !!!!

Cheers Justin
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Thanks Justin, records now been updated, yes a 4 hp
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Default Re: Tangye Hot Tube Operation

Based on information recieved, I have had a poke at the two hot tubes - luckily the only blockage was (mostly) wasp nests - they are practically clear. I'll still pull it apart, but it's optional now.

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