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Default Jensen #75 meth alcohol burner

Can anyone post a photo of the alcohol burner for the Jensen #75 Meth engine? Does anyone reproduce these?

In this case, the #75 Meth is not the horizontal side valve engines in the current catalog, but an oscillating upright engine with a black firebox. It also seems to be the only Jensen engine that used an alcohol burner. Many thanks!
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Default Re: Jensen #75 meth alcohol burner

I have only seen dry fuel or electric versions. If there was a liquid fuel burner I would also like to see one too.
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Default Re: Jensen #75 meth alcohol burner

I am not aware of a meth burning Jensen, but you could certainly build a burner. I am sure you could find someone to build one for you or show you how to build one yourself if you look here.
http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/

My son has a meth burning Mamod. I really like how cheap the fuel is and how long it lasts, but I can see why they did away with them. It is pretty easy to spill the alcohol or try to add more one that is still burning with an invisible flame. - - Dangerous!
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Here's what Steve Tyner, Jensen's representative, has to say on the subject:

"Your engine is one that has confused more than one collector, over the
years. It is indeed a model 75, which was heated using liquid fuel. It
was a model that scared Tom Sr. and he quickly dropped it from
production due to fears of causing injury. He crushed quite a number of
these engines and was known to subtitute engines for those that were
sent in for repairs, all to try to get them off the street. If your
engine still has the "banjo" burner, count yourself as being extremely
fortunate. They tended to get lost and Tom would not sell a replacement
burner to anyone.

"In 1961, Tom Sr. decided to add what is now known as our Hobby and
Educational line of engines. He resurrected the design you have as the
model 70 and added electric heating to the design. We still produce the
model 70 and it's been a proven favorite among fans of oscillating steam
engines."

Very interesting story. He did not mention that the #75 is now basically a #25 slide valve engine with Stevenson reverse gear heated with Esbit fuel. Tom Sr. is Tom Jensen, the founder of the company.

I did a web search for burners. I found a couple of not too good pics, and get the basic idea. I will build one that will work the same, but I'd like to see a full view of real one.
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Sounds like you have found quite a rare engine. Thanks for clarifying the details.
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Default Re: Jensen #75 meth alcohol burner

I have had a few of those over the years and I still have a really nice unfired example and an NOS burner.

I will post a picture of the burner.

Gil

---------- Post added at 07:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 AM ----------

Notice one of these has a little vent hole behind the filler hole. The real cork is correct.



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Gil,

Many thanks for the photo. That helps immensely.
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I have that same model steam engine it has the original operating instructions and the alchohal burner. When I was given it my grandpa said do not use the burner. So I got a jensen electric heater and put it in it works grate. The engine is not wore out at all as it was only run around 6 times when my grandpa first got it
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I had a tinsmith make a reasonable reproduction of the burner (seams are a bit different, since he doesn't extrude or spin metal), but I haven't picked it up, yet. I did run the engine using an Esbit fuel tray from another engine, and it works well.
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Woody; by now you should have your alcohol burner for your model steam engine; I would like to hear from you here and have you post a photo or two. It sounds like something I would like to make for my model Wilesco D10 steam engine. Thanking you in advance, Karl T.
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Karl, here are a couple of photos of the results of the #75 Meth burner project along with the drawings. Have fun, but don't overfill!

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Nice burner you had made, Woody.

Well done !

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Default Re: Jensen #75 meth alcohol burner

I just recently bought a style 75 Jensen with the original banjo burner thing. I can post pictures if you want I'm just very interested in this piece. I'm new to steam engines and if you have any info on it please let me know because from what I've researched this model is very rare and I can't find anything on it or pictures that match it. I got it at an auction interested in messing around with it but it turns out this is no toy.
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Thanks Woody; that sure is a nice burner! What is the media in the tube, i.e, dryer lint, lantern wick, etc? Karl T.
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It looks like cotton, but I suppose cotton rope or wick would work better.
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Thanks again Woody. I recently bought some "cotton" clothes line rope to make a starting rope for my old Briggs and Stratton engine, and I found only the outer braid of the rope to be cotton. The interior of the rope was some kind of synthetic filler. I have some lantern wicks of various size, I'll try using them.

Also, on your Web site, I found two of your engines that I also have; the Junior Engineer with compsite boiler and an early #14 with electric boiler heater. My only hitnmiss is a 1927 Economy 1-3/4hp with original cart--a great running engine that I take to local engine shows. Regards, Karl T.
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