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Case 500 on Steel new to the nest


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Old 05-14-2017, 08:24:00 AM
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Went to an auction yesterday that was listed in Old Abes News. The gentleman collected Case tractors. This 500 on steel,amish steel came home with me. They said the owner was a good mechanic and a good share of the tractors ran. Was told a battery and some fuel and it would start right up.
Are owners using 1 12 volt or 2 6 volts battery? Where is the easiest place to get fuel filters for the old girl?
I plan on cutting off those floppy tires.
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Default Re: Case 500 on steel new to the nest

Will be fun to see how it looks with the rubber off.
I use one big 12 volt in place off two sixes for ease and economics. Have had no problems.
Get some pictures in bare feet!
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I will Tony, probably be a few weeks though I need to finish up the Cletrac repower project and hear the twi cam run first but I will get too it this summer not to worry. I will also have to free up the clutch which I hope won't be to difficult. Jim
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Napa auto parts has pretty good fuel filters for these
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I just checked the serial number and it's a 1954. I did alittle investigating yesterday and found the fuel shut off is stuck on the injection pump. Any suggestions what I might try to free it up. Jim
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I sent you an e-mail. You need to check the governor shut off unit. If it is stuck the plunger is probably also stuck!. I hope you have not tried to turn the engine over. You may have broken the plunger and you just kissed 8 hundred to a thousand dollars good by. send me an e-mail and include your phone number if you have not turned the engine over.
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I just checked the serial number and it's a 1954. I did alittle investigating yesterday and found the fuel shut off is stuck on the injection pump. Any suggestions what I might try to free it up. Jim
J ware,

I dit not notice this thread before.

You might have the same same problem that we had in the past an fixed now.

We had an lot help from friend and friendly Smokstakers.
So if we can help other Smokstakers we wil help them aswel.


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Gotten caught up on a few things so Im taking some time to try and get the 500 started. Changing the oil, filter, and fuel filters. Replacing the battery cables with ones of proper size, a new battery. I checked out the injection pump and everything there seems all right.
My question today is, does anyone know where to get a solenoid for the autolite starter, the threads on the stud for the batt. cable is stripped. Going to try to take it apart and replace the copper stud, but if thats not possible need a plan b. Jim
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That is not a completely new problem, I'll bet If you sit down and think about it, some of that fuel has been in that tractor tank a very long time. I like to drain the complete fuel system and use it to flush out some old transmission then send it to the recyclers then put fresh fuel in and add some 2 cycle oil if you like (not the stuff with graphite in) I think you'll find it will behave for a long time. Adding fresh fuel don't help the old stuff is still breaking down from water moisture and air.
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Thought I would update you on my progress on the 500. As of my last posting I was able to replace the copper stud in the solenoid, but determined the pump was stuck so I removed it and sent it off to be checked out. Appears to have factory seals still in place, possibly never been repaired before. Some might think I'm throwing my money away but I think it will be money well spent in the long run. Hope to have it running before cold weather. Jim
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That 500 will be so much fun they will pull down a barn and run smooth as glass doing it.
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Recieved a call today from Central Fuel Injection Service, the injection pump for the 500 was ready to be shipped back , all fixed.
They told me it was stuck inside and if I had of tried to start it,it would have seized the pump. 340.00 verses well over1000.00 plus I'll take the moey in my pocket. Thats money I can spend on factory original steel wheels. Anyone have or know of a set, LA wheels are the same, but they also offered rear wheels that were 54 in. diameter, where standard was 48 in. diameter. Pm me with any leads thanks in advance. Jim
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Was able last weekend to get the injection pump reinstalled and had tje engine running, ran well.
When I bought this tractor I thought the clutch was stuck in the engaged position, but turrns out it is out of adjustment. The problem is I can't move the adjusting ring. Has anyone else run into this problem before, I don't know if the adjustment is all used up or just stuck from sitting. Not looking forward to having to split. Does the adjusting ring thread into the inner or outer half of the pressure plate.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated, Jim
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I ran the 500 a little more, and the more I ran it the worse it ran, lots of smoke and fuel coming out the exhaust so I pulled the injectors and sent them to Central Injection Service, called to say they were fixed, had to replace the valves in all 6 injectors. Cost alittle over 100.00 an injector to repair, I'm not complaining, their fast service is worth something. Now just to get the clutch fixed, but that could be a whole new adventure of its own. Jim
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When injector tips are bad or proper popping pressure is off spray pattern is
not correct. This will cause excessive white smoke and raw fuel pumped out exhaust. Normally happens on cold motor. Injector must spray a direct narrow pattern across the combustion chamber to energy cell on the Lanova system. The distance across along with lower compression motor causes a poor cold start. The fuel is cooled by the time it reaches the cell.

On the MM's thinner block gaskets along with composite head gaskets bring up compression ever so slightly. They start alot better.
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This started good Gary, but some injectors weren't working properly because when running a cylinder wouldnt be firing then it would fire. Cylinders1 and 2 I knew weren't firing right the exhaust manifold temps were lower than the others. Jim
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What kind of condition is motor in? Cracked head?
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Was able last weekend to get the injection pump reinstalled and had tje engine running, ran well.
When I bought this tractor I thought the clutch was stuck in the engaged position, but turrns out it is out of adjustment. The problem is I can't move the adjusting ring. Has anyone else run into this problem before, I don't know if the adjustment is all used up or just stuck from sitting. Not looking forward to having to split. Does the adjusting ring thread into the inner or outer half of the pressure plate.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated, Jim
Here is a picture of the clutch. The pin with the chalk mark has to be pulled out and turned 90 degrees and the ring with chalk marks around the holes is what you move. The clutch has to be disengaged. A short bolt that will goes into the holes welded about 90 degrees to a long half inch rod works works OK to adjust the clutch.
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Gary I just got the injectors today back from Central Injection Service, they told me they were in bad shape, they had to replace the nozzle valve in each injector. When I firsst started the engine after reinstalling the injection pump after all air was bled out it started right up. Just lots of smoke, no water in oil, no bubbles in radiator, so don't think there is a cracked head or leaking head gasket.
Heins, thanks for the pic of the pressure plate, a 3/8 rod fits the hole, I'm going to weld it to a piece of old pto shaft and smack it with a hammer to try to back it off then try to tighten it. I'm hoping this works, if not I guess next job will be to split it and put a nee clutch disk in. Jim
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It shouldn't be rusted, it runs in engine oil.
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