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Those Big Oil Pulls?


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Old 01-14-2007, 11:59:28 AM
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Greetings!
It is a crappy Sunday morning with freezing rain so I am sitting here contemplating the meaning of existence, and how they get the creamy chocolate inside the hard shelled candies, and also about the early days of Oil Pull tractors?
The famous Kerosene Annie was a featured drawing card at the late Mr. Cooke's fine museum in Billings. Now, between this tractor and the Model Bs, was there a production run of tractors in the style of Annie? I am looking through a study done by Mr. Kenneth W Tingley for the Reynolds-Alberta Museum on the gasoline tractor in Western Canada and he mentions a run of 100 tractors before October 31, 1910, suggesting this led to the production run of the Model Bs? Can anyone shed some light on this?
In the meantime, here is a picture of a Model F single that is owned by Charlie at Ontario. This was taken at the Blyth show this past September. Charlie got this tractor a couple of years back from Mr. Tysse in Crosby, ND and it is a fine running outfit. Charlie is Oil Pull through and through and grew up with them. He likely has 30 or more and also has a dandy Model E - it rolled off a trailer and was wrecked 4-5 years ago on its way to a show. He has since put it back together and it should be out and about this year. Charlie is steering the F and not sure who the other gent is?
Thanks and all the best,
G.
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To carry on with this thread, Mr. Tingley writes that Rumely marketed it lines into Western Canada before 1908 through the main branch house in Grand Forks, ND. But by the time they started pushing their Oil Pulls, they had set up houses in Winnipeg, Regina and Calgary.
Tingley describes a major promotion in 1912. He quotes from Canadian Farm Implements magazine, "A tractor special train arrived in Winnipeg during the second week in May. From the end of the engine tender to the couplings of the last freight car this mammoth shipment was more than a mile and a half in length, being in two sections. There can be little doubt that this train is the largest shipment of farm machinery ever made in the history of the world."!!!!
He states that the train carried $500,000 worth of Type E, Type B, Type F tractors. 100 cars with 101 Oil Pulls, 139 kerosene tanks for wagons,81 threshers. Dispatchd directly from La Porte, IN, it was pulled by 4 Mallet type locos and had a special coach for Dr. Edward Rumely and included a band that played at every stop!
Now that sounds neat!
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The first 100 Rumelys that you are talking about were model B tractors. The first 10 of that 100 had high top radiators and they had exaust pipes going under the engine instead of above. The remaining 90 were early tractors with high top radiators and exaust pipes mounted above the engine. All of these tractors produced had the early side mounted belt drive oiler. That is about all I can think of off the top of my head about the first 100 production tractors. As for Kerosene Annie I have heard that there were numerous changes made by rumely while designing their tractor.
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I went out to fire up the time machine so we could go for a ride and see that, but it's cold here today and the damned thing won't start, so will have to make it another day!!!
Boy would that have been something to see.
Oh by the way it is a bright sunny day here.
Ross
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The first 100 Rumelys that you are talking about were model B tractors. The first 10 of that 100 had high top radiators and they had exaust pipes going under the engine instead of above. The remaining 90 were early tractors with high top radiators and exaust pipes mounted above the engine. All of these tractors produced had the early side mounted belt drive oiler. That is about all I can think of off the top of my head about the first 100 production tractors. As for Kerosene Annie I have heard that there were numerous changes made by rumely while designing their tractor.
Chris,
Thanks for the above information, that clears things up a lot. As far as Annie, is she still in Billings?
And here is one for Ross? I have this picture, unmarked from the 60s or 70s. I am thinking it is the late Norm Schell's ol' E that used to come to Milton. Norm was from Woodstock, ON and had plenty of Oil Pulls. He sold the E before he passed and I believe it went out to Iowa? Not sure where he got it, but could have been from out that way to begin with?
I guess there were not too many of these big ones in Ontario in the old days? Alex Edgar told me that the county near him had had an E but ended up cutting it apart and used the motor for years on a rock crusher or some such rig. Alex's E came from North Dakota. Calhoun's F was a fixture at shows for years and eventually went to NY or PA - again, not sure if a local tractor to begin with? There is a B in the area now, having come down from Alberta, but it needs lots of work.
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These pictures were sent to me by Mr. Gerald Parker of Hudson Bay, SK. They are from the show at Makoti, ND just this past fall and show a real nice pair of sweet hearts. Beyond that, I have no other info. I am sure someone from over that way will have something to add? That is a show I always wanted to attend but just never had the chance - fairly well on in the fall and sometimes they get a bit of snow!
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G.: Did Calhoun's F not come by way of Earl Davison [sic]. He was also a fixture of Steam-Era at the time, and I seem to recall when that F showed up at the show very much in it's working clothes.

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Chris,
Thanks for the above information, that clears things up a lot. As far as Annie, is she still in Billings?
And here is one for Ross? I have this picture, unmarked from the 60s or 70s. I am thinking it is the late Norm Schell's ol' E that used to come to Milton. Norm was from Woodstock, ON and had plenty of Oil Pulls. He sold the E before he passed and I believe it went out to Iowa? Not sure where he got it, but could have been from out that way to begin with?
I guess there were not too many of these big ones in Ontario in the old days? Alex Edgar told me that the county near him had had an E but ended up cutting it apart and used the motor for years on a rock crusher or some such rig. Alex's E came from North Dakota. Calhoun's F was a fixture at shows for years and eventually went to NY or PA - again, not sure if a local tractor to begin with? There is a B in the area now, having come down from Alberta, but it needs lots of work.
Take care guys,
G.
I do believe that Kersosene Annie may be in Billings yet but I am not sure. The guy that bought the stuff moved a few things but as far as I know everything that he bought is still sitting in Billings Mt.
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Speaking of falling off the trailer -- I shot these at the Door Prairie Auto Museum south of Laporte, Indiana on Labor Day Weekend 1999.

I didn't see this happen, but I heard it. They hauled in three Oil Pulls on a trailer, with the smallest one up on top of the gooseneck, and something slipped when they were unloading. I'd have more photos, but the owner expressed his disapproval of my taking pictures.

Amazingly, no one got hurt.





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Thats enough to make a man cry. Hope no one got hurt. That had to bust up some of the castings along with other stuff. I watched a guy loading a tractor on a trailer once with chain steering (cant remember the tractor ) but that was half scary watching that front axle slop around like they do with that steering setup. Going up those ramps

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