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Old 03-10-2019, 01:26:46 PM
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was down in Rockaway NJ (mackey stomping grounds) this morning to fetch a turn table for our mill and just as i was leaving the older gentlemans garage I happen to see a small wheel stuffed under his workbench. I turned around to ask him whats that little wheel? response I get is from him " its a small steam engine, let me dig that out for you" well, within a minute, we both now got involved with some sunday morning down east dickering and I ended up bringing home more than the table. maybe sometime this week, ill clean it up to see better detail. here is my dickering sunday pick of the week. (if I knew where you lived Mackey, I would have stopped by)
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Wow you snagged a good one. That is a 1/4 HP Sipp , 6" flywheel. The 1/2 HP is very similar but larger with a 9 1/2" flywheel. Ron
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That is a sipp engine. I have one. Send me your e mail and i will send you a picture of mine. Thanks joe
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As the others have said, it is a Sipp. Missing the cylinder cover, but very nice indeed. Some day I will find one.

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Wow you snagged a good one. That is a 1/4 HP Sipp , 6" flywheel. The 1/2 HP is very similar but larger with a 9 1/2" flywheel. Ron
Ronald, I appreciate you identifying this steam engine.

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As the others have said, it is a Sipp. Missing the cylinder cover, but very nice indeed. Some day I will find one.

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Jim, appreciate you noticing the engine missing the cylinder cover. I guess that would be an impossible part to hunt down in the engine world. what are your thoughts, maybe trying to make one from scratch?
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:41:53 PM
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Very interesting

I have one sitting on a the shelf in the shop at my dads
The funny thing is I had it in my hands this weekend and we talked about it
We did not know the make of it and it is missing parts
I found this thread today and low and behold the base and flywheel looks the same
I am missing the cylinder, and bearing caps

I believe what we have is a 1/4 h.p Sipp

I do not have any pictures but will get some soon

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James, that makes two of us that had no clue on these little engines. Want to say thanks again to the gents of the smokstak website who shared the knowledge of the Sipp this past week.
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Here is a picture of my 1/4 horse Sipp. Appears to be original.
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[QUOTE=Jim, appreciate you noticing the engine missing the cylinder cover. I guess that would be an impossible part to hunt down in the engine world. what are your thoughts, maybe trying to make one from scratch?[/QUOTE]

Bruces engine shows the cylinder cover very clearly. I have never had one apart, so I am unsure if the cover is a casting or a stamping. I suspect it is cast, and a reasonable facsimile could be made from brass.

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Jim, I will go brass. I think I can make one from scratch on the mill when I can find some time. I do have the threaded holes, probroly have to make a few flat head bolts as well. 🤔
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Here is a old ad for Sipp Steam engines and a few pictures of mine
As you can see I am missing lots of parts.
While doing some research it seems the bores vary in size and the stroke is 2 inches.
It also appears that these were a casting kit you could buy from 1896 to 1940.
You could buy rough castings or already machined, ready to assemble and run hence the different bore sizes I discovered.

They also made boilers, but I haven't seen one

At least I know now what the missing parts looks like, going to be lots of fun making it work again after the current project I am working on
If anyone has one apart I would like info on the size of ports and size of the slide valve to reproduce my parts
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James, if i can help with any dimensions without tearing mine apart, shoot me a PM if you need some measurements. Yeah, were both gonna be on the boiler hunt.
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i got pipe dream ideas already to display my engine and hopefully find a small lineshaft for these small tools.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=essw_iL5xLg

Their boiler looks quite the size in this video I found today

Its a vertical, looks nice
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Yes, thatís a nice unit. I believe that is Gilís sipp engine in the video. I met him at jacktown few years ago. I recognize the voice in the video. Nice guy with a lot of experience and knowledge. Thank you for sharing the video.
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Here is another Nice Catalog page.

Also, if you search Smokstak for "sipp" there is a link to the Sipp catalog in one of the postings.

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Yes, thatís a nice unit. I believe that is Gilís sipp engine in the video. I met him at jacktown few years ago. I recognize the voice in the video. Nice guy with a lot of experience and knowledge. Thank you for sharing the video.
I have seen other videos of his and the engines are beautiful
He does a nice job on them, they look good and run even better
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