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Fordson Model F 1925 Restoration Thread


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This is a new project for me and have never touched a tractor before.
I went and done a job a few months ago for someone and spoke to them about an old tractor that was sitting rusting away to itself.
I took a few pictures of our dog in front of it.





I paid no attention and carried on.... I have too many other projects including a 3" 1/4 started Traction engine

I am located down South in the UK

After a few weeks I had a thought that the poor thing would be sat there for probably another 10 years or even scrapped so emailed the person who said give me so much and you can have it. It was way too much for me so ignored it and left it.
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A month or so went on and decided to give him an offer rather then leave it...... I got a reply saying I reluctantly accept your offer, when can you collect.... I was there the next day, got it loaded on the trailer and was back at the workshop in a few hours, Not bad for, go hire a trailer, drive 60 miles there and 60 miles home.



Excuse the mess in the workshop I have not attempted to clean it due to being busy at work and having soo much crap BUT I do know where everything is and was even able to find pop rivets for someone the other day and I do not even own a riveter

I immediately got to work finder the serial. She was made in July 1925.



From the information I have it was shipped to the UK 10 years or so ago and it had been used on a vineyard which may explain the awful bits on the back axle and the tyres.
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I also found a nice brass tag welded to the tank at the rad end.



First up was a small clean and start by removing the fuel tank.



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Then the air box. A bit messy in there and I found some sort of fuel cap in there. I bet someone was looking for that cap for ages and wondered where it went.





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I removed the tool box and found a nasty crack in the engine block which has been repaired previously.



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I also found a crack on the engine top cover after removing the HT leads




I started freeing up and cleaning around the nuts and bolts holding it all together. I soon realised I was wasting my time and could do it all at once when it was all stripped.

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I gave the valve cover a quick clean to see how it would come up. I will do more at a later stage.




I was cleaning up to remove some bolts around the rad and noticed some stickers that had been painted over. From what I can tell they read (dont quote me they are pretty hidden) "Moteur Special 33"

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Next was to remove the rad and water tank..... that was surprising heavy and was not a lift I was willing to try on my own so out came the table lift.


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I removed the engine top cover which gave me access to see the condition of everything. I broke a spark plug adapter part off so I will need to try and remove the thread.




Here is a video of how freely everything moves before I continue stripping. There is also compression but I will change the piston rings anyway.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE8M...ature=youtu.be

I took a few hours stripping the rad down which had 100 nuts and bolts and nearly all of them decided to snap rather then undo no matter how gentle I went.


After stripping the rad down I got busy emptying the oils and first came out 1 liter of water then plenty of oil. I was expecting much more water so happy about that.
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After that it was time to separate and split her in two




I will be replacing a few bits I am not happy about which are the front steering and axle arms as they have been damaged and welded in the past. The foot peg is also broken and the gear stick is snapped.
lots of other little bits I need to find and I need to ask all those to look out for a set of metal original wheels as I cannot stand the rubbers.

The engine and top cover cracks will be hopefully repaired by Metalock Engineering and the rad I will take to a local place to get remade if not will try and source from FordsonHouse but I already have a huge list to buy from them so trying to keep as much local as possible to save tax and import duties on shipping.

That's it for now I will update again tomorrow.

If anyone has a MANUAL they could email me please can you pm me. I would really like to know the best way to remove the engine block without causing any damage.
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The final picture above shows the drive lugs that slide inside the clutch pac. Make sure they are smooth on the drive side. If they have grooves in them smooth them out or put them in opposite side. The grooves make it difficult if not impossible for the clutch to release when running. The plates should also be buffed and the drive set peaned to give them a slight curve so they will pop open when the pedal is pushed down. I also mount a last model paper filter inside the water washer. I think 80's Volvo but not sure.
Good luck on your project there is plenty of help on the stak. Ed B
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Default Re: Fordson Model F 1925 Restoration Thread

For a fellow that's never touched a tractor before, looks like you've got a good idea of what to do!

Look forward to following your progress on the old girl. You going to try to find some steel for it, or leave it on rubber?

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Thank you Ed. Once at that point I may ask a few questions about the lugs but with the rest of the tractor it is fairly straight forward.

I have just sourced a parts manual and owners manual along with the model T & farm tractor book from Gardiner, Maine so the wait is on to see how long it takes to get to the UK

Thanks Mike. More to come later today. I have taken the week off to get it stripped (self employed) and then back to work next week so lots of updates for now then it will slow down to cleaning, repairing and sourcing parts.

Oh 100% on the look out for steels, Cannot stand the rubbers.

I would like to try and source parts to get it back to 100% original but without the mud guards so 98% original. The dash has holes in it so I guess it would have had mud guards unless that was an option and the holes are on all dashboards minus the very early ones?
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I don't know a lot about Fordson tractors but did notice that it seems to have been modified in the ignition department.

Originally, they had four buzz coils like the Model T powered by the flywheel magneto and timed by a rotary timer on the front of the camshaft.

Yours looks like it's got a magneto on it.

Was this original to a non-U.S. manufactured Fordson or is it a retrofit?
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The timing system has been added and is not original along with the manifold and few other bits. These will not be going back on and i will be sourcing originals.
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I started by removing the wheels and getting the engine into a safe position with limited tools. I have a gantry and chain hoist which I have on a job site at the moment so cannot use it. I am hoping we will be finished on the job site by the time I need to strip the rear and start to rebuild the engine and front.
The wheels came off pretty easily. Can anyone confirm if the hubs are standard hubs for the steel wheels or will I need to source some standard hubs?





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Next it was time to remove the steering linkage. It is clear this was shortened to allow the tractor to nip up and down the vineyard. The welding is not to my taste but done the job for the farmers.




The front axle came off pretty easy too and this was clear it had been shorted/narrowed also.


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The radius arm was next. Is this just an early anti roll bar or just some simple suspension. Again cut, shortened and re-welded.




Now the suspension and steering components were removed I was able to rest the engine in a much safer position and start to dismantle the engine and its components.
The front cover was first off. If anyone knows if this is original please let me know? Do I just need to buy the original governor and fit to the worm gear or has this been changed?


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I know I did not need to for dismantling and ended up moving it but cleaned the gears and lined them up anyway.




This is how the pistons looked aligned with the gears


The flywheel looked like this when aligned but could not find any sort of alignment of the flywheel side that made any sense.

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