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Small Gasoline Engine, Model, Miniature, Sales Sample or?


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Old 02-24-2018, 02:16:07 PM
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I need help identifying this engine. It has been in storage for about 35 years. The owner inherited it and knows nothing about it, but thinks it may be a salesman's sample. It appears too old to be a miniature such as those available today, but I have doubts about it being a sample. It is very well made with some nice details. The flywheels are six inches in diameter. The governor is similar to the Aermotor ball type in the flywheel. There is a water pump driven by an eccentric inside the off side flywheel and a water tank under the wooden base. The fuel tank is in the engine base. It looks to me like the mixer is on upside down. The owner told me that an attempt was made to start it several years ago, and though it did not run, it did "pop" a few times. As you can see in the pictures, there are holes where a crank shield would have been attached as well as a place for the missing cylinder oiler. The other oil cups are full of accumulated dust. I see nothing broken and both valves are free. Nothing else seems the slightest bit stuck, but no further attempts will be made to start it until more info. is obtained. I agreed to help identify it and obtain a relative value so the family can decide what to do with it. Any help will be appreciated as models are not my main interest. This one just seems special because of the detail and workmanship.
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That is a kit engine that was sold by Coles Models in California. I have built two just like it.
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Thanks, Heller. Do you have any info. on the company, or details such as instructions, plans etc. that you could scan and e-mail to me, or copy and mail ? Does the mixer look correct and correctly positioned ? Do you have any idea as to value ? Thanks for any help.
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It was a kit sold by Coleman's. I don't think they are in business any more. A 1960s vintage sales book from them lists it as a Samborsky Engine. It was available as a hopper or tank cooled engine. You bought the basic castings and machined it all by yourself. Mine runs nicely on Colemans fuel.
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