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1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”


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Old 05-25-2019, 10:37:59 PM
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Default 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

I’ve never seen anyone document what a chore it is to piece together a 1930s IHC wooden frame/steel shell cab, before.
A lot of folks go to steel tubing, especially in the wooden “sandwich” doors. Can’t blame them!
You can tell how early your C-series is (besides mechanical brakes/hydraulic brakes and partial/full cooling system) by counting how many seperate pieces make up the CAB, minus windshield.
The latest C-Series (late ‘36, early ‘37) have all-steel doors and the cab sheetmetal is made in a total of five pieces if you count the dash. That would be roof/cab back/cab corners in one piece and cowl with lower windshield reveal as one piece, the A pillars (floor to roof) each as one piece and then the dash panel.
The early C-1 pickup I’m assembling has close to ten metal pieces in the cab!
I’m lucky enough to have some of the original wooden structure to show you. I painted it IHC red but it was originally cab-color green.
I’ve included a photo of two patterns for the floor side structures laid out on a 2x12.
No wonder so few of these things are restored vs. how many were made. The C-Series cabs mostly just caved in under their own weight as the wooden structure rotted.
The metal box thing in front of the dash panel is one of the corner cab brackets that tie the longitudinal wooden floor supports to the wooden rear cab supports to the wooden rear cab cross connector/cab mount to frame. Dizzying.
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Default Re: 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

Here’s a picture of a slightly later C-Series cab back with welded corners.
The number of pieces in the cab is also a function of which IHC factory that particular truck came from, no doubt. However, it makes sense that they simplified assembly as time went on by making the pieces bigger.
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One of the early cab corners.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:19:09 PM
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Very hard to find in any condition. C-1 Pickup fenders.
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As if by magic, EBay offered up two very hard to find C-Series cab parts and I bought them. I was missing both.
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Default Re: 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

Will you be making any patterns for the wood as you go back together? I have a 1935 C-1 that could use some replacement pieces. It is still rather solid, except where the roof meets the back/corner panels. Even the wood framed doors open and close. Thanks Ed
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Default Re: 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

You should try rewooding a sedan ! The C series pickups are one of the prettiest trucks out there and well worth the effort.
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Please don’t gasp in horror, but five years ago I used a pretty nice 1936 C-30 cab with steel doors and mostly “unitized” cab to build a hot rod. I then chopped the roof and slanted the cab back to simulate a coupe roof. In other words, I built a coupe body using old IHC B, C and D Series sheetmetal. My old boss had purchased for me a 1934 or 35 IHC C-1 in pieces about 15 years ago. (I only found out last week it was missing important pieces.)
I used none of the C-1 stuff to build the hot rod. In fact, the nice 1936 C-30 cab was supposed to be used on the C-1 in place of the “puzzle cab”.
I’m now just getting to build the C-1 gift truck. This cab stuff is killing me! I usually have the complete cab mounted by now.

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Ed Noli, anything I have loose that I can make a pattern and send it to you I will.
I have parts and pieces from about five C-Series trucks still laying around. There’s no rhyme or reason, though.
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This hot rod is all IHC. Scout boxed frame and 345 V-8 engine and torqueflite trans. 1933 B-3 grille and radiator, 1936 C-30 cab, D-2 cab pieces to make the rest of the “coupe”. 1960s Travelall steering column and wheel. D-2 artillery wheels. IHC tapered driveshafts and Scout roll bars made the headers.
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Oldsoldster I hope I never have to rewood a sedan. I recently bought a pretty nice 1934 or 1935 Chevrolet 2dr sedan and I’m scared!
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Default Re: 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

In my opinion the hardest to reproduce C-Series wooden parts are:
1) Any wood from the doors. Late doors have no wood.
2) The curved dovetail cab “belt corners”.
3) The wooden cab doorjambs.
4) The cab rear crossmembers. A lot going on.
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Oldsoldster I hope I never have to rewood a sedan. I recently bought a pretty nice 1934 or 1935 Chevrolet 2dr sedan and I’m scared!
Here's a picture of a 1931 Chevy 2 door coach wood frame. I don't think the '34-'35 had quite as much wood but I'm not sure.

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I really am scared, now! Dear Lord that’s a lot of wood. I own two mid or early-30s Chevy trucks, too. The A Pillars on the Chevies are wood. Gonna be hard to reproduce that in metal.
Also. I think the doors on my Chevy sedan have wood in them.
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My recollection of C-series IHC is that they have red interior components. Not so much dash or steering column but headliner, for sure.
I’ve painted the backsides of the sheetmetal red.
I’ve included a picture of an original interior wood piece that was indeed red.
I also included a picture of the original engine ID tag that was located inside the cab. They came with Willys-derived HD flathead sixes.
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Sometimes EBay is rocket fast. Here’s my inside pillar C-Series interior piece. Kinda pitted, but it’s the real deal.
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The seperate curved cowl piece that goes below the windshield is another “early” C-series thingy. Later cabs have that piece integral with the cowl, I think. Thank goodness EBay had one and it got here quickly. I slipped it on to check fit and it’s what I was missing. I’ve owned this pile of parts for 15 years and never knew I was missing so much.
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Sanding rust and paint off upper dash pieces. A puzzle, indeed.
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Default Re: 1934-1936 IHC C-Series “Puzzle Cabs”

C-Series wooden door jamb/ vertical cab structural support.
Usual as found rotten condition. As far as I know all C-Series used these—no metal upgrade back in the day.
Still, probably not the hardest piece to reproduce (X2).
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Travelled to the hills near my house for an estate auction. Lots of very rare trucks!
This cool 3/4 ton C-Series panel truck had been offered, before. No one bit, mostly because of the rotten wood structure, probably.
Anyway, here are some snaps from Central CA. Gorgeous weather!
Look at all the wood in a IHC C-Series panel!
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I’ve never seen so many 1950s Diamond Ts is one place.
1935 Reo cab and front fenders...Model T C Cab...
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