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Storm Boring Bar


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Old 06-05-2012, 08:25:30 PM
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no i never tried it yet.im surprised its only 1/4 h p.mine is missing motor.it was used just a few years ago.how much can you take in one cut.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:45:46 PM
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no i never tried it yet.im surprised its only 1/4 h p.mine is missing motor.it was used just a few years ago.how much can you take in one cut.
1/4 hp and 1725rpm

I haven't tested it yet either. I have to beat the slugs out of that old block and give it a try one of these days. Wish I had a good way to sharpen the cutters. Any suggestions?

John
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:48:34 PM
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ive been to busy this summer to try anything with it.will try this fall.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:15:29 PM
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ive been to busy this summer to try anything with it.will try this fall.
I scrapped an 4AGE block out so that gave me a chance to give it a try. I found that the fork that holds the bar in place would not hold unless a thick shim was used to hold it off the deck. A thick steel plate bolted to the deck fixed that. The steel plate covers 2 of the neighboring bores. A threaded hole in the steel plate holds the bar clamp down fork.

To center the bore head, I utilized the beveled bottom outer edge that all the boring head cutters have. I slowly lowered the cutter down and then moved the position of the entire boring bar around until I could tell the cutters were centered in the bore opening.

I only cut down about 1/4" into the bore. When I get serious about this I will round up a tub and circulator pump and some sort of cutting fluid to aid the cutting.

Does anyone have a good way to sharpen these cutters? I saw a picture of the original cutter jig but it was small and fuzzy (the picture).

John
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:24:18 PM
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John,

Several other guys I know of, as well as myself, have always bored cast iron blocks dry. Now if you're going to bore steel, you might like to use a little coolant. The graphite in the cast iron does a nice job of lubing the cutter. When everything's right, those old bars do a beautiful job.

Rick
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:55:39 PM
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Thanks Rick, I' take your advice on that.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:47:05 PM
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I have a couple of pages from a Willys-Knight service tools booklet on the Storm boring bar. They are too big to post here you can email me at oldgoaly at Gmail DOT com. It is the only info I've been able to find, I've got 2 of them. tt
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:13:43 PM
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Email Sent, thanks oldgoaly.

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Austin Powers,
According to the info I've so far gotten, the cutting edge is the angled part of the cutter and the outer part of the cutting tool is supposed to help guide by "wipeing" the cylinder wall. I take that to mean the outer end contacts the bored wall to help keep the boring tool straight in the cylinder.
The end of the cutting tool is radiused to not cut but to wipe the cut wall. The sharpening tool made for these machines is designed to sharpen the angle edge of the bit and dress the radial end of the bit. The angled edge of the bit is how the machine is centered in the unbored hole.
I am still searching for additional info on these machines. If I get more, I will share it with all.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:57:11 AM
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Thanks Krutch,

I see what you mean. That leading edge of the cutter is slightly recessed now and will not cut correctly. Pondering some jug to sharpen all blades to correct angle and have them all end up the same length.



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Check out the pictures of this Storm model S9 on ebay. This model appears to have extensions for deeper bores and an assortment of bore guides. Appears to be missing hand crank. The boring bar hold down clamp has a bridge attached to it that my S8 does not have.

In the kit is a red ACE fixture. Anyone know how that is used with the boring bar?

http://ebay.com/itm/Vintage-STORM-Mfg-Ford-Model-A-Cylinder-kwik-way-boring-bar-engine-block-machine-/271126570501
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The Ace fixture is a connecting rod tester. It is used to determine if the rods are bent or twisted. I have a Sunnen equivalent. Comes in handy when working with older engines.

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Thread Revival!!! Last week I purchased a "STORMIZING" book off an auction site and just finished making a PDF of it. Informative and has several pictures of the Storm S 8 boring bar mounted. It also discusses how to measure and sharpen the cutters. The sharpening jig would be nice to own but the chance of one of these showing up is mighty slim. The book also shows other Storm products. The sharpening procedure assures the uniform length of the 6 cutters and therefore prevents the threading of the bore. Send me a PM with your email address and I will send you the 46 page PDF that is 7MB size. If anyone has other information such as a manual on the S8, I would appreciate a copy. John
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I overcame the head adjustment issue by cutting a slot in the end of the tapered cutter adjuster. Now I can take a cut and back the head out and advance the cutters from the bottom of the bore with a screw driver, tighten the locking plate, then take another cut without removing the whole thing. Works really good.
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Default Manual for Storm S boring bar

Have anyone of you come across the instruction manual for care and operation of the S series boring bar?

I am fixing to dust off and sharpen up my S8 and wanted a little extra help from the manual.

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Default Storm S Series Boring Bar Manual

Here is a link to a Storm Boring Bar S series instruction and maintenance manual. https://doc.co/pkM9XB


Here is a link to a Storm Boring Bar Sales Brochure https://doc.co/nkcxej
As shown in the few sample above pictures
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Austin Powers,
According to the info I've so far gotten, the cutting edge is the angled part of the cutter and the outer part of the cutting tool is supposed to help guide by "wiping" the cylinder wall.
Between the 2 books in the link above I gathered enough info to build this sharpener and used it on the small cutter. The motor and blades are from a Harbor Freight Circular saw blade sharpener.
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i couldnt do anything with mine and gave up long ago.i got a chance to sell it to a guy who owned model ts and wanted it for display.got my money back and just bought a van norman 777.
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STORM S SERIES BORING BAR
INSTRUCTIONS AND
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https://1drv.ms/b/s!AhiqLHJzXb3tgbYfZG4QDsofAdoPkg


Storm sales Brochure:



https://1drv.ms/b/s!AhiqLHJzXb3tgbYgkTowFbLYOWJAhQ


Sorry the link three posts above was destroyed by hosting sites buying each other up and crapping on what was already established.
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Default Re: Storm Boring Bar

My storm Vulcan has three little shoes that look like they extend into cylinder wall but I don’t see how they adjust?

---------- Post added at 05:20:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:19:10 PM ----------

Update there may be 4 shoes
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