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Old 09-06-2008, 09:21:13 PM
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Were there any 2 spoked flywheels, horizontal, water hopper cooled, engines built and sold to do real work and rated under 1 horsepower? Denis Rouleau
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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

Yeah Denis, several of them. Carlisle Finch and Ideal are a couple that come to mind. If you include tank cooled engines others can be added such as Globe. I'm sure stakkers can add several more.
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New Holland made a 1/2 hp engine. They're EXPENSIVE.
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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

Here is a picture of my dad's Carlisle and Finch.

I've seen a small york engine but it was a salesman's sample, it was probably about 1/2hp and fully operational, I think they only made 6 though.

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It's not under 1hp but the 1hp mogul junior is pretty small also.

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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

Here is a few to add to the list. Vim , Wallace , Sieverkropp (2 different models) , Matchless (Wilson Machine Co.) . I have school built engines , the YPSI and the Ironwood. The Galloway Handy Andy is shown in the BYB as being 1 1/4 HP has 10" flywheels. That's hard to belive since 1 1/2 HP engines are almost twice the size. The hopper cooled Bluffton is the same size except for the 12" flywheels. Why did you limit the question to hopper cooled. There are some early tank cooled that are very interesting including Sieverkropp , Carsile & Finch , Globe (American Steel Products) , Plunket . Bicknell , Stuart Sandhurst. Ron
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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

I'm probably going to butcher the spelling, but what about the Elgin "Haf-A-Horse"
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Elgin Haf-a-Hors engines only have 1 flywheel, they're vertical (inverted) and have no hopper........ I think he asked about water cooled, 2-flywheel horizontal engines.
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Oops , I messed up too! Several of the engines that I put on are single flywheel. They are still early rare fractional HP engines. Ron
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New Holland made a 1/2 hp engine.
Yes, the 1/2hp New Holland does have the features as per my question.
- 2 spoked flywheels.
- rated horsepower under 1hp.
- horizontal type engine.
- water hopper cooled.
- built and sold as a working engine (not a model).
Any others? Thanks! Denis Rouleau

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Why did you limit the question to hopper cooled. There are some early tank cooled that are very interesting. Ron
Perhaps to show the "rarity" of engines that falls into this category.
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I thought there were more than just these few!
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I believe the very rare Globe engine is less than 1 hp.

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New Holland made a 1/2 hp engine. They're EXPENSIVE.
Saw one go for $14,000.00 at an auction this summer.
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I believe the very rare Globe engine is less than 1 hp.

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3/4hp, but it's tank cooled. The original post was looking for hopper cooled engines.
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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

Here is one that fits the description:



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Were there any 2 spoked flywheels, horizontal, water hopper cooled, engines built and sold to do real work and rated under 1 horsepower?
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Gilson pony to be sold today in Kansas auction.
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I have pictures of that one: http://buzzcoil.brinkster.net/gilson/page543.html
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Sold for 1500.00
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Default Re: Real Working Engines rated under 1 horsepower

How long ago was that little Gilson sold. I like that!!!!! I have both hopper styles of the Mogul Jr. and I always thought that they were only 1/2 HP until I got one and looked at the tag cast on the side. Hard to believe that the Jr. and the bigger 1 HP Mogul are rated the same horse power, considering that the bore and stroke is different. I can't remember, is the RPM settings from the factory the same on both 1 HP Mogul and the Mogul Jr?
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