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25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home


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Old 10-29-2010, 08:24:04 PM
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Default 25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home

I brought home a 25 hp Fairbanks Morse NB on wednsday. JR Smith went along for the road trip and he was great help on the forklift. Robert H. found this engine in Nachadodges TX about a year ago. He worked on it along and decided it was to big for him. We made a deal and the engine now has a new home in Longview, TX. The first pics are loading in Dallas and the last one is unloading when we got home. I couldn't wait to work on it so I took the day off today. Hope I don't get fired.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:32:00 PM
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I worked on freeing up the engine today and got it rolling through very nicely. It is all the wore out Farmall A wanted. After about an hour I got the gov. collar unstuck and rolling free on the crankshaft. I thought I was getting close to cranking and found the throttle rod was broken where it pins to the butterfly. I have a question about the wrist pin oiling. In the second picture you can see a grease cup screwed in the rod. Is this correct? Was the oiler just for the rings?
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:14:44 PM
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Default Re: 25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home

Dwayne, here is a pic. of the wrist pin on my 20hp N and it looks like the same set up to me. Nice original looking engine!
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:50:10 PM
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Dewayne hope see this one running inApril Good luck
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:53:03 PM
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Tim, the object on your con rod appears to be a cup. The copper tube from the top of the piston catches a drop of oil now and then, thus feeding the wrist pin. The photo in Dwayne's engine clearly shows a grease cup. The grease cup may work, but you would have to shut the engine down in order to grease the pin, on a hot engine, a task risking down time and burns trying to reach the grease cup. I would remove the grease cup, clean out thoroughly, make sure there is no grease blocking the passage in the con rod to the pin, and re-install the cleaned out grease cup base. Make sure the copper tube reaches the grease cup base. Make sure that oil will flow thru the pipe and fall into the cup. On the F-M engines I own, I set the feed hole in the piston under the oiler and open the oiler wide open. I then watch for oil to get to the wrist pin. This primes the pin with oil before the engine is started. On a lot of F-M engines, the wrist pin wears because it takes a while for oil to get thru the tube as the engine is running. Loading the wrist pin first, assures it does not run dry as the engine first starts. Doing this procedure also verifies that the oil tube is not choked with carbon or other debris. If you prime, and do not see oil dripping into the wrist pin catch (the cup), then the piston has to be removed (or at least drawn out so the oil hole can be reached), and the oil supply tube must be cleaned out. On several engines I had, all it took was covering the oil catch with a cloth, and applying air pressure to blow out the debris (the rag keeps junk out of the bearing).
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Default Re: 25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home

Dwayne you sure seem to be running the black hole in Texas that sucks up some nice iron. I am curious did you rent the forklift to load it?
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:03:48 PM
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Andrew, I agree mine looks like a cup but I assumed that's the look someone was after with Dwayne's. I figured that someone would have been smart enough to cut the top out of the cup to make it work as a cup. Guess I should have asked before I said that.
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Dwayne is Robert H., antiquecarman here on the Stak? I think I remember this engine about a year ago. Some of the guys where talking about it at the local shows.
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Dwayne you sure seem to be running the black hole in Texas that sucks up some nice iron. I am curious did you rent the forklift to load it?
Kyle, I rented the forklift from Sunbelt Rentals. It worked very good for the task at hand. And as far as the black hole goes I just been lucky I guess. God lets me be the caretaker of some nice iron.

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Dwayne is Robert H., antiquecarman here on the Stak? I think I remember this engine about a year ago. Some of the guys where talking about it at the local shows.
Brad, Yes Robert H. is antiquecarman. He has had this engine for a little over a year.

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I thought the grease cup looked a little out of place, but it looks like it has been there for many years. On my bigger engines I always pre-oil the wrist pin and rod bearing to keep the wear down. It seems like the oil tube is to long for the oil to drip into the cup. I will investigate further on Sunday afternoon. No work on the engine on Saturday as I am going the the World Series to watch the Rangers (hopefully) beat the Giants.
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Default Re: 25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home

Nice engine Dwayne. I have a 20hp just like it. I am surprised to see that your backhoe could pick it up like that.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:49:58 PM
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Default Re: 25 hp Fairbanks Morse finds a new home

Thanks, Jon. My info shows the engine to weigh 8500 lbs. That was a little overload on the Case backhoe. The lift cylinders would not pick it up only the bucket roll/dump cylinders had enough power. I had to stretch out the backhoe to give me a counter balance.
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8500 lbs, give or take a few Hundred Pounds! Trailer rental, free. Labor, free! But for the Fork Lift Operator?? Well I guess, Lunch and Ice Cream?? Paid in Full!! Just glad that I could be some help. I enjoyed the trip, my friend. Ready to hear the little engine Run. J.R.
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JR, you work cheap. The real payoff will come shortly when we have a few silver bullets while watching it run. I am so glad you could go and help retrieve this beast. Being able to take road trips with friends make this hobby great.
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Well, It has only been about 3 1/2 years since I started working on this engine. You know how it is when something gets put on the back burner. Over the last few days I have got it running and we can start it by hand. Hopefully I will have a video of it on here later tonight.
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I seen that this was a old thread, and was thinking that was VERY heavy load for that Case hoe, I don't think the 4500,s and 555 Ford hoe,s Dad had would have done that!! Although he would have tried!! Nice engine!!
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Here is the video as promised, if everything works. This is a teaser, if you want to see it run in person come to the gas-up on April 26th.



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HAHA! What you saw was the 35hp Superior popping off. Now here is the 25horse Fairbanks. As before mentioned, come to the gas-up to see these beasts running side by side!

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[QUOTE=Rich Mueller Sr;1037690, I don't think the 4500,s and 555 Ford hoe,s Dad had would have done that!! Although he would have tried!! Nice engine!![/QUOTE]

I had a 555 years ago and it wouldn't come close to picking up the Fairbanks. The case is 580 super K turbocharged 92hp so it has pretty strong hydraulics. I strained it hard moving the superior under the shed.
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