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Onan 4 CCK's, and some questions


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Old 02-14-2014, 08:44:35 PM
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Default Onan 4 CCK's, and some questions

I have acquired several CCK's over the years, 1 dead, 1 kind of useless, 1 in service, 1 I'm trying to get going.
1) model 5.0 CCK 3CR/12018R, ser. C760110443

This was my first - it looked good, still shiny, but missing a few parts. After I got it home, I found out it had been left out in the rain at some point, and the engine was full of water. I should have returned it, but loading it up and driving it back 40 miles was too easy to put off.

2) model 5 CCK 4P/1J, ser. 1250852294
After I got it home and got it running, I realized it was 3 phase, 208 V. Not so useful.

3) 4.0 CCK 3CR12017R, ser. 0273572456
I got this one directly from the motor home. I replaced the carb with a propane carb I got off ebay, supposedly from an engine that drove a reefer unit on a semi-truck. I wired it into several outlets in my home. After adding a 12V shut-off and regulator it seems to work fine. It has the exhaust manifold coming down on the right.

4) 5.0 CCK-3CR/12018r, ser. G750960818
This one I am trying to get into service. It has the infamous 859 electronic controller. I am hoping to replace it with the 611-1157 that I took off 1), I thought it would be simple, not.

I'm also searching for the Onan part number for the exhaust manifold that comes down on the right.

It does have the unusual propane/gas carb. Unfortunately that also means that it has the short points box. The cover is really difficult to put on the box, so I'm going to have to figure out something else there too.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:49:58 PM
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Here are a couple more shots of #4.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:36:59 PM
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Default Re: 4 CCK's, and some questions

I believe your looking for 154-0383 srales shows to have one now i have a 4cck here for parts spec r if it will work you can get it . Which gen do you need it on and what spec ? If you need any manuals on any of the gens let us .
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Default Re: 4 CCK's, and some questions

The 3 phase will work fine also. The 208vac is leg to leg. Each leg is at 120 volts to the common neutral, so you can have 3 separate 120 vac outlets. You can also tie two legs to the input to a breaker panel. Any double pole breakers will only have 208 instead of the usual 240, although that works OK for some loads. But the two rows of single pole breakers will each be 120 vac.

I use my 3 phase 6.5 NH to power my house, but I have a custom transfer switch to utilize all three phases.

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2) model 5 CCK 4P/1J, ser. 1250852294
After I got it home and got it running, I realized it was 3 phase, 208 V. Not so useful.
That genset is the ticket to buying cheap used 3 phase industrial machine tools and being able to use them in your home shop. A lathe and milling machine could always be useful, right?
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Default Re: 4 CCK's, and some questions

"It does have the unusual propane/gas carb. Unfortunately that also means that it has the short points box. The cover is really difficult to put on the box, so I'm going to have to figure out something else there too."

Here's an idea; replace the cover screw with a piece of all-thread and run a nut down on it to lock it in place. That'll make it much easier to remove and replace the cover.

And, seeing as how Onans with points are sooooo "unreliable", you could use a wing nut making it even easier to get to those ever-so-troublesome ignition points.

sarc/off

And by the way, to all of you Solid State ignition lovers out there in Onanland, my Onans came with points and they're gonna stay that way. I love my non-solid-state, relatively EMP-proof, easy to diagnose and repair point ignitions, thank you very much.
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Thanks for all the replies - to get specific:
Kpack - I have some of the manuals, just not one specifically for the #4 machine, which is the one I'm currently working on. The only parts catalog I have is for "Postal Vehicle Application", and the only exhaust system parts shown are short stubs. I really want a manifold like the one for #3, so I can get the hot exhaust away from the wooden siding of the building. Is the manifold coming down on the right 154-0383? That is what I'm really looking for.

Mixdenny and Ranch Truck - I haven't given up on the 208 Volt, but it is going to have to wait until I build the metal shop - in the plans but I have too many projects at the moment to even think of it.

lokay5 - good points (to phrase a pun). I haven't pursued the point issue yet. Still looking for guidance on re-wiring the newer controller though.
Thanks again all
Ray
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:11:16 PM
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I believe number 19 is what your looking for. 154-1523
Pm or post your email and I'll send you the parts manual you need. I'll have to look at my gen to see if I have that exhaust pipe.
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I might have just what you need take a look and give me a call.
Kelley 979-255-3508
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manifold had a place where at sometime they had tried a sawsall but just a little i welded it with a 7018 rod i believe it will be alright
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