Antique Engines and Old Iron
[Home] - [HELP] - [Forums] - [Library] - [Photo Gallery] - [Groups] - [Classified Ads] - [Subscribe] - [Links] - [Books] - [Sponsors] -

Go Back   SmokStak > SmokStak® Antique Engine Community > Antique Gas Engine Discussion
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Notices

Antique Gas Engine Discussion Meet collectors of hit and miss engines, ask questions about collecting, restoring and showing antique flywheel engines.

Antique Gas Engine Discussion

Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild


this thread has 20 replies and has been viewed 872 times

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 02-11-2019, 01:37:43 AM
Jeff Taylor Jeff Taylor is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Durango, Colorado, USA
Posts: 196
Thanks: 8
Thanked 65 Times in 56 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

You may not need to sleeve the cylinder. I have seen many engines run just fine with pitted cylinders. I have some as well. I would suggest repairing the valve first and then seeing if it has compression. If t has compression it will probably run. How much running will the owner actually do with this engine? If it will only run once or twice a year it wont need to be perfect.

You also may not need to sink the valve seat 1/8". Take your time, do a little and check the seat as you go. You can buy new valves and sometimes you can use automotive valves.

Heads can be brazed as well. I have a 1927 Z with a brazed head.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #12  
Old 02-11-2019, 07:07:09 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your reply.

The original head is really rough, The bridge between the bowl and the port to the ignitor was rusted away and paper thin, as in 1/16" It turned to dust when I tried to grind a new seat. I bought a decent head that has been frozen and broken on the bottom, but repaired with brass. Decent repair. Plus, being on the bottom, it will not be nearly as noticeable.

When I saw how thick the wall between the valve bowl and the port to the ignitor I was really surprised. I ground the seats, and I didn't have to sink the exh much at all, the intake took only a touch. I have been looking at automotive valves with chromed stems. The stems look rough as a cobb on the stock type replacement valves that I've seen.

The cylinder wall has a section with pits 1/8" deep! Many many others 1/16' or so. Sleeving isn't a big deal.

I'll post pictures in a day or two.
Thanks again.
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-16-2019, 12:12:51 AM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

Cylinder wall.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	pitts.jpg
Views:	38
Size:	38.1 KB
ID:	328750   Click image for larger version

Name:	pitts 2.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	38.1 KB
ID:	328751  
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-16-2019, 12:20:08 AM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

Sorry about the double
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	pitts 2.jpg
Views:	40
Size:	61.2 KB
ID:	328753  
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-17-2019, 05:54:39 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

Cleaned up, ready for sleeve.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ZB block.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	48.4 KB
ID:	328846   Click image for larger version

Name:	ZB tank.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	49.8 KB
ID:	328847   Click image for larger version

Name:	ZB rear.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	47.9 KB
ID:	328848   Click image for larger version

Name:	ZB crankcasemains.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	28.1 KB
ID:	328849  
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-17-2019, 05:55:41 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

crank will polish up nicely
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-17-2019, 05:56:43 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

xxxxxxxxxcx
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ZB crank.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	43.6 KB
ID:	328850  
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-17-2019, 06:13:52 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

I will get pics of carb, and many other small parts, already cleaned and painted [ford dark green used on T engines, it I hope that it's close]. They are at work.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-17-2019, 06:17:46 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

I meant to put these in the last post. Sorry.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00858.jpg
Views:	10
Size:	133.0 KB
ID:	328859   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00859.jpg
Views:	10
Size:	105.8 KB
ID:	328860   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00860.jpg
Views:	11
Size:	125.4 KB
ID:	328861   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00866.jpg
Views:	16
Size:	136.9 KB
ID:	328862  
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-17-2019, 06:19:52 PM
davebrode davebrode is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Frostburg, Maryland
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse, 1.5 horse, throttle governed rebuild

xxxxxxxxxx
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00861.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	116.1 KB
ID:	328863   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00862.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	108.4 KB
ID:	328864   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00863.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	127.3 KB
ID:	328865   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00864.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	135.0 KB
ID:	328866  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

F o r u m Jump

Similar Threads Chosen at Random
Thread Thread Starter F o r u m Replies Last Post
Fairbanks Morse Z Throttle Governed or Hit and Miss? FibberMcgee Antique Gas Engine Discussion 8 05-15-2018 02:15:11 PM
Fairbanks Morse 3 hp Throttle Governed Z Gas Tank Day Radebaugh Antique Gas Engine Discussion 8 06-07-2017 12:29:36 PM
Fairbanks Morse 3 HP Throttle Governed Z Jumping Around Day Radebaugh Antique Gas Engine Discussion 21 10-14-2016 08:28:00 AM
Fairbanks Morse 3hp throttle governed engine... 1911LY Antique Gas Engine Discussion 8 07-24-2015 09:34:32 PM
1929 Fairbanks Morse 2 HP Dishpan Throttle Governed Dave L M Antique Gas Engine Discussion 5 01-11-2012 01:05:09 AM


Use "Ctrl" mouse wheel to change screen size.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:51:28 PM.

Smokstak and Enginads site search!


All use is subject to our TERMS OF SERVICE
SMOKSTAK® is a Registered Trade Mark - A Community of Antique Engine Enthusiasts
Copyright © 2000 - 2016 by Harry Matthews P.O. Box 5612 - Sarasota, FL 34277