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Gray Power King 5hp Hitt and Miss


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Old 10-25-2018, 07:33:00 PM
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I'm confused about Nelson bros,,they used gray tags.
Here is a 1916 Gray Motor Co. ad. They claim having 2 lines of engine, the
Power King Line and the Super Power Line of engines.

What is the serial number on the name tag, I can't read the number from your picture.

Also is there a serial number stamped on the face of one of the flywheel?

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It does have a brass plate,,gray motor co. Model n, power king 5 hp, ,5505
Oldironbug, it would be important to look for a serial number stamped on the face of one of the flywheels. If there is a model letter and a serial number there it would be a clear indication that your engine was built by Nelson Bros. and that number will be different from the one on the name tag.

Perhaps the "N" on your Gray's name tag stands for "Nelson Bros."???.
A 5hp. Nelson Bros. would be a "DA" model and a Nelson Bros. model "N" was only rated at 1-3/4hp.

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Same hopper as on my 7 hp monarch and I have seen the same hopper on a 7hp gray and at one time I had a 1 1/2 gray all nelson brs engines
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Denis numbers on flywheel D-2,hopper has a DA-158,,,,mixer has a F106,,,head DB-10 and number on tag is 5505

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That bolt sticking out of carb is a choke valve rod ,spring loaded no levers attached not sure how that works, the spring keeps it closed
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The suction from the piston opens it.
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Denis numbers on flywheel D-2,hopper has a DA-158,,,,mixer has a F106,,,head DB-10 and number on tag is 5505
What you are listing are parts numbers. What I'm looking for is the number STAMPED on the face of the flywheel, not the number cast on the side of the flywheels.

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Here is a picture showing the model and the serial number stamped on the face of the pulley side flywheel on one of my Nelson Bros engines.

In this example the "TA" is the model and "6040" is the serial number.

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Anyone else have a Gray "Power King" tagged engine they could check the serial number on the face of the flywheel so we can determine if the engine was actually built by Nelson Bros. or not.

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The flywheels are so pitted wit rust and thick paint the stamed serial number would be gone,,would they have stamed in a certain spot, tdc,bdc,
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Jeremy, thanks for info finally have it running ,found out the mag didn't have strong spark need to recharge magnets , bypassed mag used a coil batt
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