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Prest-O-Starter, Acetylene Starter for BUDA Motor


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This is my first post, so excuse my errors. I have a 1912 MICHIGAN motor car with a 4 cylinder en bloc BUDA model "T" engine, 312 cu in displacement. The car has been in my wife's family since purchased new. I am rebuilding the engine after it killed itself in January of this year. (destroyed #3 connecting rod bearing). One aspect of this engine that appears really unusual is that it has an acetylene starter manufactured by Prest-O-Lite. (see attached ad from Motor Age magazine). I'm trying to locate anyone that has themselves used such a starter or has actually witnessed the operation of such a starter. At this point I've only heard 3rd hand stories about blowing up engines. When I started the car for the first time in 70 some years in January, I primed it with gasoline and manually crank started it on the second pull. I'd like to hear the voices of experience before I even think about using this starter.

Has anyone used this sort of rare starter?
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Craig in Carlsbad, Calif.
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Welcome to STAK........

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I think this will help Please remember that acetylene is unstable above 15 psi so if you do go this route (which I think is waaay cool) you should get a quality acetylene regulator here is a link I found that explains it very well http://michiganmotorcar.com/wp-conte...ter-Manual.pdf
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only 3 3/4 hours… this is why this place is great!
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Thanks Gary....... you found my MICHIGAN restoration website.
http://michiganmotorcar.com/

And yes, that is a manual that describes the operation of the Prest-O-Starter. (an eBay find of mine from a couple years ago). I'm really trying to find someone that has ACTUALLY USED this type of starter. 1911-1912 was a period full of cutting edge automotive innovations. Some of which people take completely for granted --- like electric starters for internal combustion engines.

As we all should know, book knowledge is not the same as actual experience. I'm willing to be the "21st century acetylene starter guinea pig" if I cannot find someone who has actually used a starter like this, and can tutor me ..... But I'd rather not --- Go BOOM.
Anybody out there?

Thanks again, Craig in Carlsbad, Calif.
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CraigMich; Very interesting, I had never heard of this system of starting a engine, but it was a little ahead of my time. I came around in 1940. Now something I did come in contact with was a car that had no heater that worked off the engine cooling system, Instead the car was equipped with a heater that used gasoline, It was like instant heat, But just seemed a little dangerous having a gas fired heater under the dash. Craig Anderson do you know anything about these gas heaters?
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Not a thing Charlie.......

Here's a great page along with a link, at the bottom of the page, to download a manual.......

http://michiganmotorcar.com/nuts-bol...ylene-starter/
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I do believe at least one of those gasoline fired heaters was named South Wind, and it had the reputation of being practically instant and highly effective...I remember lots of magazine ads, it was well known..
Never had one, but should be lots of info online
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As a Corvair aficionado, I can say that the first year Corvair (1960) was equipped with a gasoline fired heater. I believe that they were optional for a couple years afterwards.

Staying on topic, I had also never heard of this starting system, but I like it! I wouldn't think that there would be too much risk, unless the gas was left on for too long prior to hitting the ignition.

I have heard that flathead Ford V-8s would sometimes self start upon switching on the ignition, having come to rest in just the right spot, with just the right mixture in the cylinder on the power stroke.
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