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TMD27 SAE Flywheel


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Old 03-04-2019, 08:28:08 PM
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Default TMD27 SAE Flywheel

Hello Folks,

I'm finally going to dig out my TMD27 engine in my shed and try once again to get back to my generator build project.

I have finally found a SAE 4 bellhousing for it. (the engine was from a welder which was dead, but the engine was great)

Being from a welder, the existing flywheel is a non-SAE, special for mating to the welder armature. So, now I have a bellhousing to bolt up, but the flywheel, not SAE will need replacing with an SAE type for use with a gen head.

I am looking for a used reasonably priced SAE flywheel, but that doesn't look promising.

So here is my situation...
The bellhousing I bought came with a flywheel meant for a clutch application...it may have come from a power unit with a PTO setup, but I dont know this for sure, just guessing. The flywheel is a full faced flywheel without the boltholes drilled/tapped for a SAE coupler plate. There is plenty of room to lathe turn an SAE recessed lip and drill/tap pattern in it.

Now the question:
If I have the flywheel turned on a lathe, and drilled/tapped with the correct SAE hole layout for the gen coupler, will I need to have the flywheel re-balanced? I know 1800 rpm is not as fast as a 3600 engine, but I am concerned about vibration if the work is not of quality precision.

Has anyone here done anything similar?
Am I crazy to try this?
Im guessing I can get a machine shop to turn the flywheel, drill/tap the holes for far less than the $500 quote I got for a new flywheel.

Any thoughts to share here?
I have had no luck finding a used SAE flywheel.
Thanks much for your help.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:37:20 PM
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Default Re: tmd27 sae flywheel

Would you be interested in swapping a Kubota engine for the TMD? I need one for my crane, have several Kubota engines.
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Default Re: TMD27 SAE Flywheel

Im inclined to say no to a trade, as I just bought the bell housing after several years of searching for one. Also, I do know the history regarding my low hours TMD27. Ive got a lot of money tied up in this engine/bell housing at this point. Im too embarrassed to say. I am however, open minded at the same time.

I know nothing about the Kubota engines. As to yours in particular, can you share some info on it, such as model number history hours, etc. ?
Also, does it have a SAE bell housing and flywheel which will accept a generator head?

It's ok to private message if you wish
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:07:11 AM
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Default Re: TMD27 SAE Flywheel

What is a TMD engine? What is a SAE flywheel? I have a military engine that I would trade the flywheel for a flywheel that I could use with a clutch.
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What is a TMD engine? What is a SAE flywheel? I have a military engine that I would trade the flywheel for a flywheel that I could use with a clutch.
Wisconsin Continental TMD27 diesel engine, or TM27 gasoline engine, 4 cylinder

SAE is Society of Automotive Engineers; standard industry sizes of bell housing and flywheel

free feel to private message me with the flywheel dims or post here
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:06:57 AM
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I know about the SAE bell housings, but I have never heard about SAE flywheels. I'll take a picture of the flywheel end of my engine and post it here.
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hello and thanks, please add engine info and dims if possible.
no offense, but without any info, it's just a photo of a flywheel.

i would need dims and spec info to determine if i could use it.
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Default Re: TMD27 SAE Flywheel

I don't think the flywheels will interchange, different engines. It is a Hercules 298 diesel engine. The bolts holes in the bellhousing (180 degrees apart) are 18 1/4" and the dia of the recess in the flywheel is 15 1/2".
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Default Re: TMD27 SAE Flywheel

thanks for the photo and dims. Correct, the flywheel from your herc is way different in size. the flywheel I will need is about 13.75" overall diameter with the hole pattern 9.58"

I appreciate your trying to help.
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