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I'm new here so I hope my question doesn't start a battle, but I've been looking into possibly playing with a cheap... haha hit and miss diesel. My question is how do you tell the difference between the gas ones and the diesel ones? I never seen anybody really say what theirs is when they're selling theirs.
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Welcome to the show! As far as I know, they did not make a hit and miss diesel only throttle governor. It would also be listed as HVID. Usually harder to find and pricier.
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Look for a spark plug or igniter of some sort. They will have wires attached. No spark plug or no wires attached to anything near the head - good chance it might be diesel.

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A diesel isn't throttle governored, the speed is controlled by the amount of fuel the injection pumps pump.
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Default Re: Hit and Miss Diesel

Thanks for the help guys. I guess to narrow it down more, i'm looking for a diesel hit and miss like a offgridder or homesteader would want. Something simple to work on and juryrig in a pinch though I know they are pretty part specific.
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Default Re: Hit and Miss Diesel

Are you talking about a Diesel flywheel engine? Hit & miss refers to the mode of operation, not the configuration of the engine itself. Google Witte Diesel, for example.
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Default Re: Hit and Miss Diesel

Another example is something like a Lister CS 6/1 or google Listeroid for the Indian "clones".
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My favorite small diesel would be a Witte diesel engine. These were used to power electric generators. Most are equipped with generators which could be used in a power outage.
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Default Re: Hit and Miss Diesel

The Wite was a true diesel - using compression and high pressure fuel injection alone for power. HVID engines used high compression but low pressure fuel induction, using the volatility of the fuel to ignite the main fuel charge. Semi-diesel or 'hot head' engines used lower compression and to start an external heat source for ignition. Once the engine got running, the heat rtainned in the head continued to provide an ignition for the fuel. As in a true diesel, hot head engines used timing and duration to maintain speed.

The advantage of the semi-diesel engines was the fact that they used what was then a low cost fuel - kerosene. today, kero is about twice the cost of gasoline, but back in the '20s and before, it was a waste product, and was very cheap.1 penny a gallon, compared to 7 cents for gas! Another item was that semi and true diesels made for a better fuel economy that a gas engine.
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Yeah sorry, a flywheel diesel like the old Indian/ clones i guess. One that can run multiple fuels.
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