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How Not To Tow Or Back Up A Trailer


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Old 12-15-2018, 06:38:42 PM
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This one brings tears to me peepers.....
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Similar to the Family guy vid but real.

A number of years ago I stopped for lunch at a lake restaurant a block from my house with a boat launch. I'm munching my sammich and notice a bunch of people hanging around a car. Two teenage girls backed a boat in too far or fast and it was sinking while on the trailer.

I'm going to sound like the comedian Vic Di Bitetto here but that's what ticks me off. 3-4 people watching while these kids were freaking and crying and nobody was helping. I was driving my old '48 Dodge Power Wagon and I told the one girl to just sit in the car and step on the brakes. Yes the whole thing was slowly sliding into the water with the bumper just getting wet.

I back the old truck around and hook a cable hook to the A arm of the car. In 4 low I just slowly inched the car and boat out. Stopping often so the boat could empty as I figured all that water weight could break the transom off.

When I had it all out the kids gave me a hug and were scared shitless what dad was going to do to them.

And nobody else helped them out.
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Before testing for my CDL, the testing company required that I spend a couple hours with an examiner and the machine I'd be renting for the test, so I could get a feel for it.

While there, another guy was renting the other machine. I listened to him talking when he first arrived, and I got the sense that he probably shouldn't be behind the wheel. He wasn't intoxicated; he just wasn't suited to it.

So, I start moving my machine around, practicing the required maneuvers. The examiner is sitting shotgun, chatting. He tells me that this other guy has taken the six week course and failed the test twice. He says that he's kind of worried because the guy can't be trusted on the road.

Eventually, my examiner jumps out of the rig to make sure that I don't cross a backing boundary, which was a yellow line on the pavement. (Crossing the boundary=fail that part of the test.) I proceed to practice my alley backs, which is backing at 90 degrees into a space. The examiner wanders off to advise the other guy, but he's glancing over now and again to make sure that I'm fine.

Half hour later, he jumps back in. He says,"Watching these trucks is like watching time lapse pictures. Every time I look up, yours is in a completely different spot, but his hasn't moved." It hadn't either. Poor guy couldn't even back straight with out stabbing the brakes.

I hope he found better work before testing.
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My favorite fishing spot had a perfect view of the public access... didn't matter if the fish were biting...
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I used to have the task of road testing new hires for the company. The dispatcher had previously done it but decided to stick me with it for a time, not a very rewarding career path. One fellow pulled out the lot and immediately started driving the rig down the center line! Had people running off the road to keep from getting hit. When I pointed out the folly of that, he simply stated that they would get out of his way! The company still hired him against my better judgement. After him destroying many thousands worth of equipment they fired him a year later. One other guy was so busy talking that he nearly side swiped another dump truck. The final straw was an older guy that the boss had already hired. He had his CDL and claimed that he had for years been a truck porter for a large heavy truck dealership. He was doing well enough till it came time to back into the dock. We sat on the lot for a few minutes after coming in off the highway, he just sat there. I asked if there was a problem, you could see the fear on his face after I suggested he dock it. Still no response, then he finally questioned if I was serious. I mentioned that it might be easier to load at the dock rather than try to convince the fellows to carry the product out to the lot to load. Still no movement, really looking worried now, I suggested he line up the truck with the marked lanes in his mirrors and ease it in. Still no move, finally he tried but he was lined up between the 2 docks instead with where he needed to be. Tried to get him to stop and line up better but no he kept going. I had to reach over and pop the air to keep from messing up the truck. Got him out and showed him where he actually was and then proceeded to dock it myself to show how simple it was. We waited till the weekend and had him and another worker helping him practice a few weeks before he got on to it. After that one I gave that duty back to the dispatcher! I'll never forget that look on that fellows face when asked to back in!
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Even going forward can cause problems.
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I have learned that if it isn't going anywhere near right I am better off driving completely away and starting over.

I once parrellel parked a big Buick and pop up camper on a busy street, first try and it was perfect. Surprised me.
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can try backing up a trailer like this
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Then there's the time I loaned my 5x8 trailer to a guy at work that was moving. Another guy loaned his pickup for the weekend.

Monday came and he returned both. Seems he had a bit of a jacknife issue when backing up. My trailer had a busted up wood side, 2x4's and 1x6 panels. and a magically destroyed tail light that one of his kids used as a step. The truck had a mashed in box corner where the trailer hit it, bent in so the tail gate was jammed closed and the tail light was destroyed. Needless to say neither of us were pleased. It cost him about a grand to fix the truck and $50 to fix my trailer.
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I used to fish with a guy and we always used his truck and boat. When we got to the lake he got out and had me back the boat down the ramp. Same thing on taking the boat out. It amazes me that somebody would spend big money to buy a boat or trailer of any kind and not go to a parking lot and practice backing.

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I bought my Fairbanks 15hp Mine Hoist engine from a gent in Minden NV and it came with this story.

He spotted the engine in the front yard of another gent in Hawthorne NV around 1990 but it was another 10 years before he could get it bought. Seems that owner held several mining claims in central NV and had sold them to a big mining company around 1950. The hoisting engine was not part of the deal as the big company planned to strip mine the mountain, so the owner decided to haul his 15 Fairbanks out himself. He had a heavy homemade trailer (with no brakes) and a 1949 Chevy 1/2 ton P/U. For a little extra ballast he loaded the 300lb head sheave into the truck. Sounds like the first few miles went ok till the big drop down the mountain from 7,000 ft. to the valley floor. I guess after the first few turns the brakes were pretty well cooked and all the poor guy could do was hang on and try to keep it on the road. By the bottom of the hill speeds were over 100 mph (best guess) and the brakes were on FIRE! 3 hours later, fire out, nerves calmed, and probably some clean pants, he limped it home.

I would not want to be a passenger on that ride! No wonder the engine sat untouched for so many years. Good thing roads in Nevada were pretty empty back then, I'm sure he used every inch trying to straighten out the curves.

Engine and trailer weight had to be 11,000+ lbs. Towed by a 3,600? lb pickup. What could possibly go wrong?
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A friend towed a 25 HP oil field engine with a 4x4 GMC Jimmy. The truck weighed in at 1/4 the weight of the engine. He burned out 6 transmissions, and countless sets of brakes before returning the truck to the dealer as 'defective'. The dealer never asked him what he was towing! A 4x4 R-20 Suburban didn't fare much better. While going down a mountain on I-80, in PA, he burned out the truck and trailer brakes. Cops estimated he was going at least 80 MPH at the bottom of the mountain. It took him over 2 miles to stop, with 4 police cars behind him! The rotors on the truck front brakes got so hot they were nearly white hot. When he finally got the truck stopped, the front tires caught fire and blew out. The rears were smoking badly too. Luckily, a local fire department was having a fund drive nearby, and they got their truck there to put the fires out before the truck burned up. He got lots of tickets for that one!
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If your load starts swaying and you have electric trailer brakes, easiest way to stabilize the load is to mash the gas and lightly hit the brakes.

It's like pulling a string from both ends and it usually snaps the load back in line.

then stop and add more tongue weight.
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