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Default Three Engines, what are they?

And what would be a reasonable price?

These three engines are coming up in a live auction in a couple of days. The only description in the auction catalog is "antique engine" .

Can anyone tell from the photos what they are, and give an idea of what would be a reasonable price to bid.

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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

the first one looks to be a fairbanks z style d, the second, a briggs, and the third look like a economy. good luck at the sale!
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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

check that, the second kinda looks like a kohler...
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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

I would say #2 is an AEH Wisconsin.

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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

i would say Phil is right look at the cranks on top of the engine those are correct for that model area.
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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

Hi

Look at the plate bolted to the crankcase behind the magneto (you are looking at the back of the engine). This indicates a base mount magneto. The size of the air cleaner indicates the smaller of this model group (AAH, AEH, AGH etc.) Although the shape of the gas tank indicates a larger and newer engine like the AGN but the AGN doesn’t use a base mount magneto. All of these have the cylinder that bolts to the crankcase.

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Default Re: 3 engines, what are they?

#1 is a Fairbanks Morse ZD. $150.00 - $200.00
#2 Briggs type weather it is a Briggs, Lausen, Wisconsen??? $20.00 - $50.00
#3 Economy / Hercules I just sold a couple for $350.00 each and they went straight away so I was a bit low but certainty under $500.00! Good luck
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#1 is a Fairbanks Morse ZD. $150.00 - $200.00
#2 Briggs type weather it is a Briggs, Lausen, Wisconsen??? $20.00 - $50.00
#3 Economy / Hercules I just sold a couple for $350.00 each and they went straight away so I was a bit low but certainty under $500.00! Good luck
Well you know how auctions are.

Heading into this auction and how bad I wanted it, Mike is about right on the ZD, I would value the pump at $50-$150. I'll bet this setup will go for around $250.

No comment on the Briggs

About $500 for the Economy / Hercules is about right at auction, if it is all there. If they demonstrate it to run add another $100 or so.

Again this is the auction mentality where anything can happen.
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The Hercules has the new style Webster mag .... not always a good thing.
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Default Re: Three Engines, what are they?

There are two easy ways to determine if it is an AGN. Unfortunately the picture is not oriented in a way to tell for sure. The AGN didn’t have an inspection cover on the block on the gas tank side and didn’t have a base mount magneto. My AEH parts book shows a fuel tank like the AGN tank was available. I have to old “Brown Cover” parts and service manual.

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Default Re: Three Engines, what are they?

I'm with Curtis on the middle one. Exhaust screws directly into the block rather than a manifold like the ADH/AEH or AFH/AGH/AHH. Cylinder jug bolts onto the lower end, unlike the AENL. Wouldn't expect it to be crank start though. gas tank also matches AGN,
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